Need some IC info

[Stang51d]

Can someone explain this to me.
Ind. Code § 14-16-1-23 : Indiana Code - Section 14-16-1-23: Restrictions on operation
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It looks to me like, at any time, anywhere, you can not have a firearm with you on a "orv" (4 wheeler, ranger or such) without it being unloaded, and securely encased and/or made inoperable with a trigger lock.

There is no provision for being on ones own property or if someone has a ltch and is carrying. At any rate, how is this not a direct infringement?

 

[Ruffnek]

(b) Subsection (a)(9) does not apply to a person who is carrying a handgun if the person: (1) has been issued an unlimited handgun license to carry a handgun under IC 35-47-2; or (2) is not required to possess a license to carry a handgun under IC 35-47-2-2. - See more at: Ind. Code § 14-16-1-23 : Indiana Code - Section 14-16-1-23: Restrictions on operation

Methinks you should read it in its entirety.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

​There is no provision for being on ones own property or if someone has a ltch and is carryingy

Not tracking. Did you read subsections (b)(1) and (b)(2)???

 

[Stang51d]

Ok, I see that part now, but that only covers part of the question. Still, by the language, a co who comes on your property unannounced, and uninvited, (the term "open fields" comes to mind) could cite you for, driving a utv or atv of some sort with a rifle that is not unloaded and in a case or has a trigger lock.

Is is this correct?

l'm holding out for you Kirk, because I know that you know your stuff.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

a co who comes on your property unannounced, and uninvited

Ok, and we are worried about Conservation Officers doing rifle checks because . . . ? I'd post your property lines and buy a 125cc motorcycle.

could cite you for, driving a utv or atv of some sort with a rifle that is not unloaded and in a case or has a trigger lock.

Correct, the CO could. The interesting thing about Title 14 is that it get the Attorney General in on enforcement. A unique chapter to say the least.

 

[Stang51d]

Not really worried as such. Just wondering how far it could be taken. It came to mind this evening when I remembered about it happening to an older guy that I did some bulldozing for a while back. He has over 200 acres and was out on his gator when he came across the CO in his woods. Told me that he "wrote him up" for having a rifle with him that was loaded.

Just seems wrong wrong in a lot of ways to me.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Well, it's a statute, passed by men and can be undone by men.

Maybe passed with an anti-poaching intent. Don't know for certain.

 

[Stang51d]

Thanks Kirk.

 

[Rarejewell]

My question is, what was the CO doing on private property?

 

[Ruffnek]

My question is, what was the CO doing on private property?

COs can do it. It isn't right, and it isn't fair, but it is a fact.

 

[24Carat]

I have been told that CO don't even need search warrants.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I have been told that CO don't even need search warrants.

Did a CO tell you that?

 

[HoughMade]

I have been told that CO don't even need search warrants.

Here's a fun research project. Outside of enclosed buildings or curtilage, who needs a search warrant to be on property under what circumstances? Show your work.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Anybody else ever notice when folks come on here wanting to know how to troubleshoot an air conditioner, people in the know try to give as specific information as possible; same with how to wire a three way switch or how to best access a fuel pump on a pickup truck. I'm not sure why questions about legal type stuff has to be equivalent to decyphering parables or figuring out a Rosetta stone.

 

[Ruffnek]

I'm not sure why questions about legal type stuff has to be equivalent to decyphering parables or figuring out a Rosetta stone.

Because many laws seem to be written as such.

 

[T.Lex]

Here's a fun research project. Outside of enclosed buildings or curtilage, who needs a search warrant to be on property under what circumstances? Show your work.

[raises hand]
Ooh, ooh, I know, I know!!

 

[Bill of Rights]

Anybody else ever notice when folks come on here wanting to know how to troubleshoot an air conditioner, people in the know try to give as specific information as possible; same with how to wire a three way switch or how to best access a fuel pump on a pickup truck. I'm not sure why questions about legal type stuff has to be equivalent to decyphering parables or figuring out a Rosetta stone.

"A" Rosetta Stone? There's more than one????? (other than the "learn a new language" people at rosettastone.com)

 

[17 squirrel]

[raises hand]
Ooh, ooh, I know, I know!!

Is that in your best Arnold Horshack voice ?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

who needs a search warrant to be on property under what circumstances?

Every single law enforcement officer that finds something on my client's property under EVERY SINGLE CIRCUMSTANCE.

 

[T.Lex]

Every single law enforcement officer that finds something on my client's property under EVERY SINGLE CIRCUMSTANCE.

Then they aren't trying nearly hard enough.