GO SHOOT THE GUN

[shooter521]

From Rob_s on another forum. Good reading here, if you're new to the AR platform.

I just responded to a thread about whether or not to install an o-ring under the extractor in a brand new Colt 6920. I got the impression that the gun hadn't even been fired yet, or if it had it was only fired for a few rounds. I've also been noticing more and more threads about "my first carbine is on the way, what rail/stock/widget should I buy for it first?" This seems out of sequence to me.

When I first get a new firearm, or finish assembling a new AR, the first order of business is to go shoot it as-is. Even if it's just bench time to check function etc. I don't want to get down some long path of installing rails, and optics, and new triggers, etc. only to find that the gun has problems. Now I have to figure out if the problem is one of my widgets or the factory parts, and if I have to send it back in to the factory I have to strip off all my widgets. GO SHOOT THE GUN to check for function.

I'm also not sure how people know, right off the bat, that they want (need?) a rail system, a new stock, a new grip... Personally the first thing I change out on any AR is the A2 grip, but that's because I know that the finger groove makes me NUTS. How do I know this? I spent all of TD1 in an EAG class shooting with the A2 grip. But for a lot of guys the A2 works fine, great even. I'm that way with an M4 stock. I see no reason to change it out, and it certainly would be far from the first thing I'd change out. How do I know that the M4 stock works for me? Spent all of TD3 at a Cumberland Tactics class shooting with the M4 stock. GO SHOOT THE GUN and see if any of the stock parts really cause you a problem or not.

The rail system is a real kicker for me. I see "look at my new carbine" posts of a brand new Colt 6920 where the handguards have been changed out for a rail system ($250+/-), the pistol grip has been changed out ($30+/-) and the stock has been replaced ($100+/-), often with a full set of Troy flipup irons ($250+/-). Now, I ain't going to begrudge anyone the grip, but otherwise that's $600 worth of stuff on that gun that is doing NOTHING to improve your ability to get hits quickly and these changes are often done without ever having fired a shot. Take $450 of that $600, get in touch with G&R Tactical and pick yourself up an Aimpiont C3 in ADM mount for $450, cut down the carry handle that came with the gun into a rear BUIS, stick with the stock FSB, and use part of that $150 you saved to pick yourself up a BFG Victory Sling for $35 or a Boonie Packer for $15, and get out there and GO SHOOT THE GUN.

This isn't a rant, this is intended and advice. My first AR(s) after the ban sunset I did exactly what I see a lot of other folks doing. I bought an LMT 14.5" upper, had a Gemtech silencer mount permanently installed, had a Larue 12.0 rail and lo-pro gas block installed, got myself a Magpul M93B stock and Tango Down pistol and vert grips, slapped an Aimpoint and Troy rear sight on it... all without ever having fired a shot. And then, just to compound matters, after only getting a few rounds downrange with this beast, I went and "built" a whole 'nother carbine with Daniel Defense in place of the Larue, Vltor in place of the Magpul, Ergo in place of the Tango Down, Eotech in place of the Aimpoint... and months after my initial purchase I still had maybe 500 rounds combined through the pair.

See, I thought I "needed" all that crap on there. I thought I "needed" a rail system and vert grip. and frankly, I was motivated by a"this looks COOL" mentality as much as anything else. I even carried some of these preconceived notions over to my first two Colt projects (a 6520 and 6933, see "a tale of two carbines" on my website).

After all of this, and all those thousands of dollars down the drain, guess what I'm shooting these days? A plain old LMT lower, into which I dropped a G&R lower parts kit, installed a MOE stock and Grip, and topped it off with a BCM midlength upper and Aimpoint C3 in ADM mount. I went with the MOE parts because I assembled this rifle from scratch. If I had started with a factory complete gun I'd probably still have the M4 stock on it, although I would have still changed out the grip due to personal lessons learned. I figured out a way to mount a white light on a small section of rail on the handguards, the key to which is that I can take that light off there when I don't need it or don't want the added weight. I put a $15 Boonie Packer sling on it, and secured it in the front with a BFG UWL at the delta ring. The base gun without optic was under $1k, $1500 tops as it sits. and you know what? it does everything my $3k "wonder guns" do but at half the price. Lesson learned. Now whenever I have a match or class or drills night it's that BCM gun that I reach for. Reach PAST all those $3k+ carbines and get the plain 'ole functional boring BCM.

GO SHOOT THE GUN, and figure out what YOU want or need to do to improve it.

[esrice]

Good article! Especially for us AR-noobs.

Re-evaluating our "needs" versus our "wants" is a good practice, no matter what the subject is.

Glad I just got my Aimpoint C3, or the rest of that article might've stung a bit!

(hey I put several magazines through her before this self-proclaimed "gear nut" went shopping. . . )

[RyanV]

Agreed, great post! I think a lot of guys get side tracked when buying ARs. They go for all the bells and whistles before they understand the basics. This is a must read for new AR owners or those thinking of buying.

[rmcrob]

I agree for the most part. But for me, I don't even *need* the AR. My reason for having it is all fun. I understand that I could end up in a SHTF situation and actually need to use it, but that is a remote possibility. I use it to look at and slobber on and occasionally punch holes in paper. Believe me, there are cheaper ways to punch holes in paper.

If I were LEO or military and my gun was for work, that would be a totally different story. For me, though, I don't have any superpowers but that of having a little bit of money to play with. The purpose of my gun is different.

But I do appreciate the article. It makes sense.

[mikea46996]

Bravo!!!!!!!!!!

My brother and I both purchased new M&P15s went to the range the same day and both shot good groups with flip up rear and standard front post.

Three weeks later he calls me up "hey meet me at the range"

We meet there he pulls out this tacti-cool carbine with all kinds of stuff on it.

We throw up 3 targets apiece we each fire ten rounds into each target sitting(or kneeling) ,prone, and standing. We go and retrieve the targets, he says"WTF wow look at how tight your groups are man your rifle is shooting way better then mine and I spent all this money upgrading it."

Yep you spent $1000.00 on "upgrades" I spent $600 on ammo and mags and three weekends at the range how much shooting did you do?

"Ahhhh none I had it apart and don't have the money for that much ammo"

Dumbass..... Parts don't make it a better rifle, practice makes you a better shooter!!

I bought almost all of his "upgrades" for half of what he spent so he could afford ammo I have them sitting aside my future build. He is shooting much better now(better then me, little **** has perfect vision) and he loves his back to stock M&P15.

[ATM]

Gotta make sure it's "blingworthy" at any rate.

[tyler34]

well when you have to wait 6+ months for a gun you have to do something to pass the time.

[hornadylnl]

I paid $40 for quad rail handguards on ebay. They hold tighter than hell and serve my purpose. No way I was going to spend $200 + on it. I got it to hold a flashlight laser combo. The bad thing about railed handguards is they add a lot of mass with covers on them.

[mettle]

Esrice, could you give a good review on that C3? I have wanted one forever, just don't know anyone with one. I'd love to shoot one in person... but.

[shooter521]

Originally Posted by rmcrob

I agree for the most part. But for me, I don't even *need* the AR. My reason for having it is all fun.

I don't "need" my ARs, either; I don't chase badguys or kick doors for a living, and don't even keep an AR as my bump-in-the-night house gun. But "adding stuff for the sake of adding stuff" doesn't make any sense to me, even on a fun gun.