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Old 06-18-2009   #21 (permalink)
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Rifle slugs should come out of a smooth bore barrel, and sabot slugs should come out of a rifled barrel
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Rifle slugs should come out of a smooth bore barrel, and sabot slugs should come out of a rifled barrel
yes I agree, the reason for the rifleing is to make uo for the lack of rifleing in a smooth bore barrel.
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If any of you get The Rifleman magazine from the NRA, there was a pretty good article on the latest and greatest slug technology in it...I borrowed the mag, don't know when it was written. Probably last fall... The issue the article was in had the Auto Ordinance M1-Carbine on the cover.

But, what has been said: Rifled slugs = smoothbore. Sabot slugs = rifled slug barrel

You'll get better accuracy out of a sabot slug + rifled slug barrel than you will with a rifled slug out of a smoothbore.

Rifled slugs out of a smoothbore don't have any spin imparted upon them, thereby lessening downfield accuracy (as compared to sabot slug)

Also, in general, your "effective" range with a rifled slug/smoothbore is ~40% or so less than with a sabot slug/rifled barrel. 60-70ish yards vs 100-125ish yards.
This is exactly what I wanted to know ! Thanks to you and everyone else for the info.
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Just to add real-world info, I have fired both rifled and saboted slugs from my rifled shotgun. The rifled slugs do make a mess of the barrel, but they function. Accuracy during my last range day with rifled slugs was about 12" at 50 yards using Winchester silver box 1oz. LRN rifled slugs in 2 3/4" shells. It's been some time since I fired sabots, but my best recollection is about 5" accuracy at 50 yards using Federal Premium hunting loads of saboted X-bullets in 3" shells. Weapon is a Mossberg 500 with rifled barrel topped with a 3x Tasco shotgun scope. Shots were taken offhand from a standing position and I'm not a great shot with this weapon, so I'm sure my groupings were fairly proportionate, but larger than the gun is capable of.
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yes I agree, the reason for the rifleing is to make uo for the lack of rifleing in a smooth bore barrel.
Actually, this is not quite true...

as there's nothing in the barrel to impart spin on the slug, the slug doesn't spin.

The "rifling" on the slugs serves no real function, actually.

At least this is what I remember reading in an article!

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Actually, this is not quite true...

as there's nothing in the barrel to impart spin on the slug, the slug doesn't spin.

The "rifling" on the slugs serves no real function, actually.

At least this is what I remember reading in an article!

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Just like a hollow point in a 12 gauge slug, they are there as a promotional gimic selling point for people who don't know better.
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Just like a hollow point in a 12 gauge slug, they are there as a promotional gimic selling point for people who don't know better.
Exapand on that if you would .
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Exapand on that if you would .
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I think the rifling on a foste slug has been covered here, it does not impart any spin to the slug. Not inside a smooth barrel and not after it leaves the barrel. The slug is not spinning when fired from a smooth bore shot gun.

A slug is pretty close to .690 of an inch already. What is a hollow point going to accomplish? Most of them look like a doughnut with a hole in the middle when they come out now unless they hit bone. Best thing about sabots is they get full penetration a lot more reliably than the foster slugs now that you can hardly find any that are not hollow point.

Spinning fins and hollow points on shot gun slugs, cheap theatrical gimmick to push product to suckers who don't know any better. The world would be better off with out either one or at the least no worse off with out the silly fin gimmick.
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Actually, this is not quite true...

as there's nothing in the barrel to impart spin on the slug, the slug doesn't spin.

The "rifling" on the slugs serves no real function, actually.

At least this is what I remember reading in an article!

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so if the rifling has no function should you use sabot in a smooth bore?
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so if the rifling has no function should you use sabot in a smooth bore?
No you will be wasting your money. Read the articles below.
Shotgun slug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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