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Old 05-29-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Thoughts on the XM8

I was goin thru some old articles on possible replacements of the m-16 for the Military.
Personally I like the H&K XM8, and would love to see a Civy version.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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HK would never sell anything like that to civilians, because we suck and they hate us. In the eyes of HK, we are full of fail.

HK would have to do some serious selling to ever get the military to adopt it. Its not a bad modular platform, but like most HK rifles (with some exception) would likely be horribly expensive, even with the discout they give the ubermensch.
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HK would never sell anything like that to civilians, because we suck and they hate us. In the eyes of HK, we are full of fail.

HK would have to do some serious selling to ever get the military to adopt it. Its not a bad modular platform, but like most HK rifles (with some exception) would likely be horribly expensive, even with the discout they give the ubermensch.
I couldn't agree more.
That said, I don't see the advantage of a weapon like this outside of a military or LEO role.
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I couldn't agree more.
That said, I don't see the advantage of a weapon like this outside of a military or LEO role.
Are you speaking of design or putative capabilities?
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Pics are too small, but the thing has more attachments than a 92 Honda Civic! Its got a part for everything. Pretty slick, I would have to admit.
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Are you speaking of design or putative capabilities?
I guess it's like the Sig P250.

How many people do you know who for their personal firearm are going to buy a $600 gun, and then two additional $50 frames, two additional $200 Barrels, and two additional $250 slides to take their P250 compact, and allow them to convert it to a sub compact, or full sized.

That's $500 per conversion. Why not just buy a subcompact for $600, and a full sized for $600 and have three guns that CAN function at the same time.

Looking at the XM8 what I see is.

An AR-15 Carbine, that can be converted into an AR-15 rifle, that can then be converted into an AR-15 pistol, With all sorts of appropriate attachments for each, Bipod/scope/grenade launcher etc.

For the average Civilian who isn't trying to arm a department/squad/platoon and doesn't have a full time armorer on staff. I don't see how a $3000 wonder rifle, plus $12000 worth of attachments is any advantage at all over buying 4 purpose built $1500 AR-15 rifles.
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