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Old 06-02-2008   #11 (permalink)
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Any of them.
All of the above, unless completely wasted by corrosive primers, or terrible mistreatment should meet your criteria just fine.
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Yes but what about the Mag Wobble? how can that be counter acted? I'd hate to ruin a good gun trying to fix a noise. Also, what would be a good caliber?

I'm figuring for a worst case scenario, should I have to use the enemies rounds they "drop", what would be best? 223, 762, 556... does the AK even chamber 556??? LOL
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Romanian WASR. In the past you said money has been an issue. It's an issue for me as well but it has prevented you from getting some training.

The AK47 meets all of your criteria. The Romanian's will run and are cheap. I would prefer to see it in person before I bought it and check for canted sites / gas block. I have owned one and it was great.



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LOL I've shot a few AK's and SKS's in my day so I know pretty much how they handle but I've been reading about this new AK type from I.O., Inc. Sounds nice and seems like it has all the nicities of the AK and ALOT of improvements. Does anyone own one or has anyone shot one?

Comes in the calibers of 7.62x39mm, 7.62x54R?, .223, and .308. Whats with the 54R version of the 7.62? Don't believe I've shot those before...
I own one and it's fit and finish (except for the front handguards) is better than your standard CAI stuff. It is also far lighter than a standard AK. It is no supershooter, but does ok. I have to get mine out to the range now that I have the scope mounted.

It is no sniper rifle, but then again, my PSL really only plays one on TV. Even with an 8x scope attached.
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Don't worry about the wobble.

7.62x39 is the caliber you want. Yes you can get one in 556. Any of the ones you mention will hurt.


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I'm figuring for a worst case scenario, should I have to use the enemies rounds they "drop", what would be best? 223, 762, 556... does the AK even chamber 556??? LOL
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Reliability is my main concern. As with an evil glock(haha j/k) if I must lay in the dirt and mud, or submerge myself in water, will it effectively and reliably fire.

Accuracy is my Secondary concern.
"ARs are more reliable than you think, and AKs are more accurate than you think." Truer words have never been spoken. While each system has its strengths and weaknesses, they are both more than capable of doing what you need to do.

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Not sure what you mean by "223 and 762 are all around better rounds". For most practical purposes, 5.56 and .223 are interchangeable. The 5.56 vs 7.62x39 "debate" is largely a re-hash of the light/fast vs. heavy/slow argument (could just as easily substitute 9mm vs. .45, etc). Too much breath is already wasted on that; I'm not going to go there. I have owned 7.62x39 rifles in the past, but have standardized on the "small bore" calibers (5.56 and 5.45) in both the AR and AK platforms. I believe they are inherently more accurate, are effective enough out to 300 yards, and the low recoil facilitates quick follow-up shots.

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Neither the AR nor the AK has an overly complicated manual of arms; that's a wash.
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Money, Yes and it continues to be. I'm just researching my options and trying to make a good judgement before I do go buy anything. I do like the AK's and have shot many of them. But I've never really shot too many AR's except one Bushmaster a few times and an RRA not too long ago. Besides that, the most rifles I used to shoot were bolt action and, again, some AK's and a few SKS's. Shot some nice sniper rifles and that's how I gained my love of the long shot.

Since I've got some good experiance running around in here, whatta y'all think of the Cx4 and Rx4? The Cx4 is really light and comes in good calibers. I just question its reliability since it's so new. I have considered A Px4 Sub compact for my BUG it's a nice handgun and has a nice trigger pull, but that's for another thread..
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What are the good calibers?
9 and 45 for closer encounters, and 223 for the longer shots.
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