STG-2003-C AK perfection?

[SavageEagle]

Again, reliability I'm not sure about because I've never shot one, and haven't read any threads pertaining to them

[Fenway]

Do you want a rifle shooting rifle calibers? Or pistol calibers? You have gone from 7.63 5.56 and now we are talking about 9 and 45????

[SavageEagle]

Originally Posted by Fenway

Do you want a rifle shooting rifle calibers? Or pistol calibers? You have gone from 7.63 5.56 and now we are talking about 9 and 45????

I don't nessesarily want one in 9 or 45, but if I got a second rifle to carry or for the fiancee, maybe a 9 or 45 wouldn't be so bad. But as a Primary rifle I would want the 223. Sorry for the confusion. I don't remember what the Rx4 is chambered in. It's no longer on Beretta's website that I saw. I'll see if I can find it.

[SavageEagle]

according to the "wiki" it comes in 223 and 556. Which is better for distance since they are practicly the same but still different?

[epsylum]

Originally Posted by SavageEagle

according to the "wiki" it comes in 223 and 556. Which is better for distance since they are practicly the same but still different?

5.56 can safely shoot .223, not the other way around.

[SavageEagle]

Originally Posted by epsylum

5.56 can safely shoot .223, not the other way around.

Ok but that's sort of confusing. How is that possible? and what is the better of the two, interchangability aside?

[epsylum]

Originally Posted by SavageEagle

Ok but that's sort of confusing. How is that possible? and what is the better of the two, interchangability aside?

They are essentially the same caliber. 5.56 = the NATO standard version of .223 Remington. The difference being that 5.56 has a slightly longer throat to the chamber. A .223 chamber could cause a high pressure situation if 5.56 ammo is shot through it. 5.56 is also slightly higher pressure.

Since the 5.56 chamber is the looser of the two, it is safe to shoot .223 through it.

[SavageEagle]

appreciate it. So it sounds like a 5.56 would be a better choice chambered wise. And I would be right to assume the 5.56 would have greater range and knock down power?

[Disposable Heart]

Originally Posted by SavageEagle

appreciate it. So it sounds like a 5.56 would be a better choice chambered wise. And I would be right to assume the 5.56 would have greater range and knock down power?

The 5.56 chamber will allow you to fire essentially any commerical or military cartridge in .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO. That would be the better choice. As for "KO" power, the difference between the two is only chambering. There is a difference in pressure, however, the velocities can be almost equivalent with the right commerical loadings. So in summary: Yes there is a difference with 5.56 NATO loadings (not just chamberings) being technically more powerful, but everything varies upon ammunition manufacture and type of bullet at the end. Which is more powerful doesnt come into the equation. Similar arguement is which is more powerful: 9mm Luger or 9mm NATO? Same round, one is loaded a little hotter, but either can be equal with appropriate loadings from many many factories.

Realistically, for a beginner user, just stick with a 5.56 chamber and fire anything cheap that is .223 or 5.56. As for which one is more powerful, that is always debated along with which is better 9 or 45? Wouldnt worry about it at this juncture.

[SavageEagle]

Sounds good. What do you all think of the Bushmaster ACR?