Best kept secret in Indiana

[IndyGunworks]

I dont understand why it has to be a secret as to what the company is called.... clearly by their being two post production samples on your table that their company does indeed exist, so why are you withholding information? Price i can understand. but their isnt anything for you to gain by NOT telling us who the new guy on the block is.

[techres]

Hold on now:

Receiver made in state. Check
Ammo made in state (I know one). Check
Sale made in state. Check
10th Amendment. Hmmm.....

[Bill of Rights]

Originally Posted by techres

Hold on now:

Receiver made in state. Check
Ammo made in state (I know one). Check
Sale made in state. Check
10th Amendment. Hmmm.....

If I'm not mistaken, I think that all the pieces have to be manufactured in state from steel made from iron that was mined in state, and possibly even with tools made in-state.

Note that I do not agree with this interpretation, I am simply of the belief that it is what is currently in use by our country's government.

Blessings,
Bill

[melensdad]

Originally Posted by Bill of Rights -- Regarding 10th Amendment State's Rights

If I'm not mistaken, I think that all the pieces have to be manufactured in state from steel made from iron that was mined in state, and possibly even with tools made in-state.

Well this image appears to be an aluminum forging. If the forge is here in Indiana and the machine shop is here in Indiana, then this qualifies as a "gun" under the BATFE rules:

So of this is a gun and we assemble the other parts . . . hmmm.

But as for this gun, is there anyone who sees something special about it because it looks like a typical AR15 lower to me. Am I missing something? If it is in spec, and if the finish is good, then what makes it special other than it comes from Indiana?

[Bill of Rights]

Originally Posted by melensdad

Well this image appears to be an aluminum forging. If the forge is here in Indiana and the machine shop is here in Indiana, then this qualifies as a "gun" under the BATFE rules:

So of this is a gun and we assemble the other parts . . . hmmm.

But as for this gun, is there anyone who sees something special about it because it looks like a typical AR15 lower to me. Am I missing something? If it is in spec, and if the finish is good, then what makes it special other than it comes from Indiana?

First, re: my quote, it's not "states' "rights"" that I consider to be at issue. The 10A states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the
States respectively, or to the people." No "rights" involved, and as I see it, no powers at issue either: Control of any personal weapon (arm) is categorically denied in the 2A: "...The right of the people...shall not be infringed."

Thus, we are discussing individual (the only kind of) rights and usurpment of authority by the fedgov.

As to the OP and your reply, I see nothing about this lower with the exception of the fact that there is no visible engraving on the lower.

No disrespect intended here, Melensdad, I just wanted to clarify the incorrect info you (inadvertently) posted.

Blessings,
Bill

[techres]

Originally Posted by Bill of Rights

If I'm not mistaken, I think that all the pieces have to be manufactured in state from steel made from iron that was mined in state, and possibly even with tools made in-state.

Note that I do not agree with this interpretation, I am simply of the belief that it is what is currently in use by our country's government.

Blessings,
Bill

Don't confuse me with the facts. I am happy just dreaming...

In the real world, you would also need a state government with guts and an understanding of their own place and power before the behemoth of the federal government.

So, yeah, dreaming.

[Michiana]

Originally Posted by IndyGunworks

I dont understand why it has to be a secret as to what the company is called.... clearly by their being two post production samples on your table that their company does indeed exist, so why are you withholding information? Price i can understand. but their isnt anything for you to gain by NOT telling us who the new guy on the block is.

I am curious if other people besides myself know of this company so I want to give it a day or two while I get their pricing in writing before spilling the beans. I hear all the time that only a couple shops do the machining for all the big named gun manufactures and that might be the case; who knows these folks might do the same for some of the companies in the future. Right now they are looking at various avenues to sell their product and I will be trying to test the water for them as best I can within my limitations.


Right now lowers are the only parts they manufacturer and they are doing some very inventive processes to make a superior part. Hopefully I will get a tour of the operation this week and will have more information. I am not playing games; just trying to find out if many people know if this company and their lowers.

[melensdad]

Originally Posted by Michiana

I hear all the time that only a couple shops do the machining for all the big named gun manufactures and that might be the case...

You hear wrong? Or I misunderstand your statement?

There are a handful of forges that make the blanks. There are dozens of shops, perhaps many dozens of shops that do the machining for the various brands. Some of the biggest names machine the forged blanks in house. Some of the biggest names have a machine company mill the blanks to their specs. The smaller and medium size brands use many different shops to do their machining and the shops that do the machining do so with varying quality and tolerances. Finishing, which is usually basic polishing and anodizing is typically done by yet another shop. A few brands will do multiple steps to include teflon coating and anodizing, etc.

[esrice]

There was an INGO member not too long ago talking about producing his own lowers here in the State.

[hotfarmboy1]

Originally Posted by esrice

There was an INGO member not too long ago talking about producing his own lowers here in the State.

That's what I was thinking as well, I just can't remember who it was. Sounded pretty promising though.