Quick question about white-tail deer hunting.

[rhino]

I've heard an outlandish rumor that a whitetail deer can actually be harvested with a 12ga and slugs. But that's just crazy talk.

[Cwood]

Originally Posted by rhino

I've heard an outlandish rumor that a whitetail deer can actually be harvested with a 12ga and slugs. But that's just crazy talk.

I heard that rumor but untill I see photographic evidence I'm not putting any faith in it.

[Bazooka Joe71]

So the beowolf is out by .025 eh?

[Bazooka Joe71]

Oh yeah, when did these regulations change?

[melensdad]

Originally Posted by indyjoe

I think there still is a loop hole for typical high power rifle cartridges less than .357" in a handgun form.

I do not see such a loophole. The different publications that I have seen have listed the same cartridge requirements. I believe the regulations were written specifically to prevent the use of sub-357 caliber ammunition so traditional loads like the 30-30 and other common deer rounds are not legal.

Originally Posted by Bazooka Joe71

So the beowolf is out by .025 eh?

That is correct. And since the 50 Beowulf headspaces on the rim if you trimmed the case back to legal length you may not have reliable primer strikes. The 450 Bushmaster is also eliminated as a cartridge because of the same reasons. The 458 Socom, however, fits into the criteria.

Originally Posted by Bazooka Joe71

Oh yeah, when did these regulations change?

From what I understand this past year so this season will be the first to allow pistol caliber rifle hunting.

[Indy_Guy_77]

I could SWEAR that my my step-dad's brother used to hunt deer (legally) with a T/C pistol chambered in .30-30...

Maybe I'm dreaming...

-J-

[rhino]

Originally Posted by Indy_Guy_77

I could SWEAR that my my step-dad's brother used to hunt deer (legally) with a T/C pistol chambered in .30-30...

Maybe I'm dreaming...

-J-

You can use those centerfire rifle calibers for deer in Indiana in handguns, but you can't in long guns. Long guns are slug or certain pistol calibers only.

[melensdad]

Originally Posted by rhino

You can use those centerfire rifle calibers for deer in Indiana in handguns, but you can't in long guns. Long guns are slug or certain pistol calibers only.

Can you please sight the law/regulation that allows that. I am under the impression (and would love to be corrected) that your statement is incorrect. The wording from the DNR seems to be very clear, there are case length minimums and maximums and the bullet itself has size restrictions with nothing under 357 diameter. A 30-30 or similar round would lose out on caliber (being only a .308/.309 diameter bullet) but it would also lose out because the case length is greater than 1.625" long (a 30-30 is 2.039" long).

Much of the wording regarding the cartridge limitations seems to be directed toward RIFLE hunting, and I am not a PISTOL hunter so I am not sure if the same restrictions apply.

[Indy_Guy_77]

Originally Posted by melensdad

Can you please sight the law/regulation that allows that. I am under the impression (and would love to be corrected) that your statement is incorrect. The wording from the DNR seems to be very clear, there are case length minimums and maximums and the bullet itself has size restrictions with nothing under 357 diameter. A 30-30 or similar round would lose out on caliber (being only a .308/.309 diameter bullet) but it would also lose out because the case length is greater than 1.625" long (a 30-30 is 2.039" long).

Much of the wording regarding the cartridge limitations seems to be directed toward RIFLE hunting, and I am not a PISTOL hunter so I am not sure if the same restrictions apply.

I was under teh impression that the regulations and rules that you're quoting are for pistol-caliber rifles only...that the older rules/regs allow for handgun hunting with many different kinds of cartridges?

I am not, nor ever have been a deer hunter. I really don't know about this kind of thing!

-J-

[Indy_Guy_77]

"Legal Handguns for Deer Hunting
Handguns, other than muzzleloading, must have a barrel at least four inches long and must fire a bullet of .243-inch diameter or larger. The handgun cartridge case, without the bullet, must be at least 1.16 inches long. Full metal-jacketed bullets are not permitted. Handguns are not permitted on any military areas. Some types of handgun cartridges legal for deer hunting include 357 Magnum, 41 Magnum, 44 Magnum, 44 Special, 45 Colt, 45 Long Colt, 45 Winche-ster Magnum, 35 Remington and 357 Herrett.

Some illegal handgun cartridges for deer hunting are 38 Special, 38 Smith and Wesson, 38 Colt New Police, 38/200, 38 Long Colt, 38 Super, 38 ACP, 38 Colt Auto, 45 ACP, 45 Automatic and 45 Auto Rim. All 25/20, 32/20 and 30 carbine ammunition is prohibited also."

The above quote was taken from the 2007 Indiana Hunting Guide, can be found online here: http://www.in.gov/dnr/files/0708_hg_generalinfo.pdf

-J-