Need help with my Ruger Mini 14 - Page 2

civilwar · 08-25-2008

Yes, I do have some Remington ammo to try.
Hopefully it is not the Wolf ammo because I purchased 240 rnds, guess I could sell it to some of my AR friends if need be.
I am doing a thorough cleaning of the action as I write.

Terry

Foxtrot · 08-27-2008

Check your manual bolt hold open button to see if that is the issue. There is a little spring under it behind the plate you replaced that if lost will lock the action open on every shot.

civilwar · 08-28-2008

The bolt is not staying open after every shot, it is ejecting the spent round then coming back forward. The bolt as far as I can tell is doing everything it is suppose to do just not pulling the next round out of the mag.
I have checked bolt thoroughly, cleaned and wiped down the whole gun. I am planning on taking it out on Friday or Monday, then running it through all the checks to see what exactly is causing the problem. I am hoping it is just something as simple as the mag or just it needing a little oil.
Thanks to all so far for the ideas of possible causes.

Terry

Foxtrot · 08-29-2008

Let me look at my Mini14 and see if I can duplicate the malfunction. I don't think its the ammo as my Mini eats Wolf quite well with no issues. Do you have a recoil buffer installed? If so and if it is to thick the action will not come back far enough to strip another round off the mag. The buffer will need to be made thiner. I have a buffer on mine and it acted just as you described until I shaved a little off.

civilwar · 08-29-2008

I don't believe it has a buffer on it, but I will check. I was actually thinking about getting one though. Next week I will have time to really investigate the problem with it, since I have 3 days off in a row.

Terry

civilwar · 09-01-2008

I took it out today and fired off a few rounds with the same results. Using the new magazine I purchased I loaded it to capacity then fired the first round. Just as before it ejected the casing but did not strip off the next round, tried it a few times. I then removed the scope and mount to try that, still the same. I manually ran the bolt through it paces, loading a shell from the mag and ejecting it, it worked flawlessly. I have came to a conclusion that the gas system for the bolt travel is worn out or something and not pushing the bolt all the way back far enough to strip a shell from the magazine.
The next step I am going to take is to thorough go through the bolt slide setup and how to get the gas system to seal better to help resolve the problem I am having.

Terry

civilwar · 09-23-2008

I figured out the problem with the loading issue over the weekend, conclusion gas system problem. I recieved my parts from Midway USA on Friday and installed them on Sunday and took a little trip to the range. Fired the first round and could already tell it was functioning properly, so I proceeded to empty the mag

.
Not bad, I spent approx. $7 to fix a problem that I was worried I was going to have to take to a gunsmith.

Terry

chrissmallwood · 09-24-2008

What exactly was the problem?

bwframe · 09-24-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrissmallwood

What exactly was the problem?

Yes, inquiring minds want to know! And what part did you order?

civilwar · 09-25-2008

Well with me trying to get the rifle to work properly I must have disassembled it at least five times. I started inspecting the gas system on it after the second time of shooting and still having the same problems. I took the gas block off of the barrel, I found the gas piston was severely corroded like no one had cleaned it up or lubricated it. I did some checking on the net and found Midway USA had the parts that I needed. I ordered a new gas piston pipe and gas block bushing. Total cost of the two parts without shipping was under $7.
Midway USA actually has a very good factory parts selection page as long as you know what it is you are looking for. I had to order a SS gas piston pipe because the blued ones are on a 60+days backorder. Luckily they are the same O.D. or I would have been waiting 2+months to make myself feel better about purchasing the gun.

Terry

08-27-2008	#12 (permalink)
Foxtrot Patriot Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 25	Check your manual bolt hold open button to see if that is the issue. There is a little spring under it behind the plate you replaced that if lost will lock the action open on every shot. __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" 19th Battalion Indiana Sedentary Militia (ISM). Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum. Μολών Λαβέ

08-29-2008	#14 (permalink)
Foxtrot Patriot Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 25	Let me look at my Mini14 and see if I can duplicate the malfunction. I don't think its the ammo as my Mini eats Wolf quite well with no issues. Do you have a recoil buffer installed? If so and if it is to thick the action will not come back far enough to strip another round off the mag. The buffer will need to be made thiner. I have a buffer on mine and it acted just as you described until I shaved a little off. __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" 19th Battalion Indiana Sedentary Militia (ISM). Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum. Μολών Λαβέ

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08-25-2008	#11 (permalink)
civilwar Somewhat Twisted Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Central Posts: 28	Yes, I do have some Remington ammo to try. Hopefully it is not the Wolf ammo because I purchased 240 rnds, guess I could sell it to some of my AR friends if need be. I am doing a thorough cleaning of the action as I write. Terry

08-28-2008	#13 (permalink)
civilwar Somewhat Twisted Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Central Posts: 28	The bolt is not staying open after every shot, it is ejecting the spent round then coming back forward. The bolt as far as I can tell is doing everything it is suppose to do just not pulling the next round out of the mag. I have checked bolt thoroughly, cleaned and wiped down the whole gun. I am planning on taking it out on Friday or Monday, then running it through all the checks to see what exactly is causing the problem. I am hoping it is just something as simple as the mag or just it needing a little oil. Thanks to all so far for the ideas of possible causes. Terry

08-29-2008	#15 (permalink)
civilwar Somewhat Twisted Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Central Posts: 28	I don't believe it has a buffer on it, but I will check. I was actually thinking about getting one though. Next week I will have time to really investigate the problem with it, since I have 3 days off in a row. Terry

09-01-2008	#16 (permalink)
civilwar Somewhat Twisted Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Central Posts: 28	I took it out today and fired off a few rounds with the same results. Using the new magazine I purchased I loaded it to capacity then fired the first round. Just as before it ejected the casing but did not strip off the next round, tried it a few times. I then removed the scope and mount to try that, still the same. I manually ran the bolt through it paces, loading a shell from the mag and ejecting it, it worked flawlessly. I have came to a conclusion that the gas system for the bolt travel is worn out or something and not pushing the bolt all the way back far enough to strip a shell from the magazine. The next step I am going to take is to thorough go through the bolt slide setup and how to get the gas system to seal better to help resolve the problem I am having. Terry

09-23-2008	#17 (permalink)
civilwar Somewhat Twisted Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Central Posts: 28	I figured out the problem with the loading issue over the weekend, conclusion gas system problem. I recieved my parts from Midway USA on Friday and installed them on Sunday and took a little trip to the range. Fired the first round and could already tell it was functioning properly, so I proceeded to empty the mag . Not bad, I spent approx. $7 to fix a problem that I was worried I was going to have to take to a gunsmith. Terry

09-24-2008	#18 (permalink)
chrissmallwood Plinker Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 11	What exactly was the problem?

09-25-2008	#20 (permalink)
civilwar Somewhat Twisted Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Central Posts: 28	Well with me trying to get the rifle to work properly I must have disassembled it at least five times. I started inspecting the gas system on it after the second time of shooting and still having the same problems. I took the gas block off of the barrel, I found the gas piston was severely corroded like no one had cleaned it up or lubricated it. I did some checking on the net and found Midway USA had the parts that I needed. I ordered a new gas piston pipe and gas block bushing. Total cost of the two parts without shipping was under $7. Midway USA actually has a very good factory parts selection page as long as you know what it is you are looking for. I had to order a SS gas piston pipe because the blued ones are on a 60+days backorder. Luckily they are the same O.D. or I would have been waiting 2+months to make myself feel better about purchasing the gun. Terry