Air Force contract training rifles

melensdad · 08-27-2008

For those unfamiliar with the M16 training rifles our newbie combat troops get to handle, here is a photo taken at the Olympic Arms factory of a batch getting ready to be packed up and shipped out to the Air Force. These are part of a 400 gun contract. Olympic Arms has contracts with every branch of our armed forces for various configurations of rifles.

I'd actually like to get a set of the blue furniture for one of my ARs

cce1302 · 08-27-2008

What's with the blue? Do they not fire live rounds? Blue on ammunition normally denotes inert rounds.
I remember using blue M-16 uppers to train with SESAMS (paintball-type) rounds.

phylodog · 08-27-2008

Interesting, do you have any of the specs? Are they fully functional rifles? 22lr or 5.56mm? What is the reason for the blue furniture?

JcJ · 08-27-2008

The blue reminds me of NATO, but they wouldn't have any magazines.

slacker · 08-27-2008

Blueguns - Train Safe & Train Smart

They are just for training, they don't actually do anything.

Although the ones in the picture do look different, maybe I am mistaken

The blue furniture would be fun to have though

shooter521 · 08-27-2008

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Originally Posted by slacker

Blueguns - Train Safe & Train Smart

They are just for training, they don't actually do anything.
Although the ones in the picture do look different, maybe I am mistaken

"Blue Guns" by Ring's and "Red Guns" by ASP are just gun-shaped chunks of solid rubber. I believe the rifles pictured above are referred to as the "Cobalt Trainer"... based on the gov't contracts I've seen, they are functional (i.e. can be manipulated, taken apart, etc) but non-firing, hence the blue (inert) color coding.

phylodog · 08-27-2008

Cwood · 08-27-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by shooter521

"Blue Guns" by Ring's and "Red Guns" by ASP are just gun-shaped chunks of solid rubber. I believe the rifles pictured above are referred to as the "Cobalt Trainer"... based on the gov't contracts I've seen, they are functional (i.e. can be manipulated, taken apart, etc) but non-firing, hence the blue (inert) color coding.

Ok, I am a little slow on the uptake....

Why would they order those? Doesnt the Air Force recruits have pass some sort of Basic Rifleman?

melensdad · 08-27-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by shooter521

"Blue Guns" by Ring's and "Red Guns" by ASP are just gun-shaped chunks of solid rubber. I believe the rifles pictured above are referred to as the "Cobalt Trainer"... based on the gov't contracts I've seen, they are functional (i.e. can be manipulated, taken apart, etc) but non-firing, hence the blue (inert) color coding.

Yes, you are exactly right. The cobalt trainer designation is the proper one, but many refer to them as duct tape guns. They are non-firing but fully functional training weapons.

They are issued to the new recruits to learn gun handling before being given live guns/ammo. They are also used for parade duty and parade demonstrations of fancy gun handling.

There is absolutely no connection to the United Nations.

cougar_guy04 · 08-27-2008

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Originally Posted by melensdad

I'd actually like to get a set of the blue furniture for one of my ARs

Check with Cav Arms. If I remember right, they have (or had) some AR furniture in that shade of blue.

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cce1302 Breacher Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Bend Posts: 164	What's with the blue? Do they not fire live rounds? Blue on ammunition normally denotes inert rounds. I remember using blue M-16 uppers to train with SESAMS (paintball-type) rounds.

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slacker Check your 6 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Indianapols, IN Posts: 537	Blueguns - Train Safe & Train Smart They are just for training, they don't actually do anything. Although the ones in the picture do look different, maybe I am mistaken The blue furniture would be fun to have though