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[SigSense]

They asked for this and now they have it: The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. | Mail Online

Now here's my common-sense question of the day; if we (USA) currently have a deterrent (private gun ownership), why would anyone want to INCREASE the rate of crime?

[Robert Richardson]

So we would be more dependent on the government to protect us.

[Kirk Freeman]

The UK numbers are acutally much worse.

The police have long been manipulating the numbers by checking the theft box for burglaries and robberies or simply not reporting crimes.

Several UK ex-pats have described the crime situation in the UK in mags such as The American Spectator. It is not pretty.

why would anyone want to INCREASE the rate of crime?

So the politicians and "experts" among the bureaucrats and policacrats can exert greater and greater control over your freedom and property.

[danielocean03]

Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman

So the politicians and "experts" among the bureaucrats and policacrats can exert greater and greater control over your freedom and property.

Bingo. Rep'd.

Those statistics make me nervous, I have to travel to the UK for training over two weeks next year. I'll be honest, I knew they had crime due to their gun control laws, but I had no idea it was that bad. Just goes to show, that an armed society is a polite society, and unarmed citizens are merely subjects.

[StarKing]

Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman

The UK numbers are acutally much worse.

The police have long been manipulating the numbers by checking the theft box for burglaries and robberies or simply not reporting crimes.

Several UK ex-pats have described the crime situation in the UK in mags such as The American Spectator. It is not pretty.



So the politicians and "experts" among the bureaucrats and policacrats can exert greater and greater control over your freedom and property.

I might add that crimes that do not result in a conviction are not reported at all on official stats.

[Hoosier8]

Gotta love statistics.

Here are some stats for the US and Canada.

Between 1962 and 2006, the violent crime rate in Canada, per 100,000, went from 221 to 951, a 430% increase.

Between 1962 and 2006, the violent crime rate in the US, per 100,000, went from 162 to 473, a 291% increase.

Violent crime per 100K is twice as much in Canada than the US. Sure, gun crime is higher than Canada because of more guns and because they are more available, but we still have fewer violent crimes. Compare that to the article. Sure there are recording differences, but if 1/2 of the UK stats are wrong, violent crimes are still higher by more than twice.

[Garb]

I watched an interview of a man who lives in South Africa. He said one day he got robbed and when the robber left he called the police to report it. The police asked if the man had a gun and he said yes. The police said come down to the station to report it, we're to scared to come to your house. What is this world coming to?!?!

[danielocean03]

Originally Posted by Garb

I watched an interview of a man who lives in South Africa. He said one day he got robbed and when the robber left he called the police to report it. The police asked if the man had a gun and he said yes. The police said come down to the station to report it, we're to scared to come to your house. What is this world coming to?!?!

Wow, that's just plain crazy. Further proof of the hinderance to freedom gun control creates. At least his police seem ready to protect him.

[henktermaat]

Poor defenseless brits... Didn't they ban knives over there too?

[danielocean03]

Originally Posted by henktermaat

Poor defenseless brits... Didn't they ban knives over there too?

To the best of my knowledge they had at one point, I'm not sure if they currently are allowed or not. I know back in 2004 when my boss was in Britian, he wouldn't go into some building because he had a little pocket knife with him and he didn't want to have it confiscated.