Crown Point, IN gunman thwarted at chruch

[Spot Me 2]

Originally Posted by Slim7

Okay, two questions. In general, what gun do you CC to church. I could see an LCP or something of that type in the worship service, but a larger weapon I couldn't conceal well enough to not draw attention. (Maybe I just need to work on my concealment). I'd still feel a little funny about cc in worship so would want to conceal well.
Also, if I carry to church, why not a daycare/preschool?

I CC my XD 9mm sub com. It is against the law to carry on school grounds which is why most will not carry if their church has a school. That being said, I believe in the old saying. "I would rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6". I don't need anyone to tell me that I have a God given right to protect myself and my family!

[INGunGuy]

Originally Posted by Slim7

Okay, two questions. In general, what gun do you CC to church. I could see an LCP or something of that type in the worship service, but a larger weapon I couldn't conceal well enough to not draw attention. (Maybe I just need to work on my concealment). I'd still feel a little funny about cc in worship so would want to conceal well.
Also, if I carry to church, why not a daycare/preschool?

IC 35-47-9
Chapter 9. Possession of Firearms on School Property and School Buses
IC 35-47-9-1
Exemptions from chapter
Sec. 1. This chapter does not apply to the following:
(1) A:
(A) federal;
(B) state; or
(C) local;
law enforcement officer.
(2) A person who has been employed or authorized by:
(A) a school; or
(B) another person who owns or operates property being used by a school for a school function;
to act as a security guard, perform or participate in a school function, or participate in any other activity authorized by a school.
(3) A person who:
(A) may legally possess a firearm; and
(B) possesses the firearm in a motor vehicle that is being operated by the person to transport another person to or from a school or a school function.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.11.

IC 35-47-9-2
Possession of firearms on school property, at school function, or on school bus; felony
Sec. 2. A person who possesses a firearm:
(1) in or on school property;
(2) in or on property that is being used by a school for a school function; or
(3) on a school bus;
commits a Class D felony.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.11.

And that my friend is why you cant. You cant even carry into church if they have a daycare or school facility that is part of the church.

INGunGuy

[hotfarmboy1]

I carry my G30 in an IWB. Normally a fairly baggy shirt.

[Buckaroo]

Depending on the day I carry a M&P compact under an untucked shirt, carry tucked or wear a vest. I can also pocket carry of course.

Buckaroo

[lawrra]

Originally Posted by Slim7

Okay, two questions. In general, what gun do you CC to church. I could see an LCP or something of that type in the worship service, but a larger weapon I couldn't conceal well enough to not draw attention. (Maybe I just need to work on my concealment). I'd still feel a little funny about cc in worship so would want to conceal well.
Also, if I carry to church, why not a daycare/preschool?

I carry a XDm 40 without issues. The daycare/preschool issue has been covered. Carry what you're comfortable with

[spanky dog]

New to this site and new to having a permit to carry. Question. With a permit, does the gun have to be on your person or can you carry it in some type of "bag" or whatever that is not actually connected to your belt, ankle holster etc?

As far as a church setting, there are various sizes of what look like they could be bible covers that one could put a large frame gun in.

[lawrra]

Originally Posted by spanky dog

New to this site and new to having a permit to carry. Question. With a permit, does the gun have to be on your person or can you carry it in some type of "bag" or whatever that is not actually connected to your belt, ankle holster etc?

As far as a church setting, there are various sizes of what look like they could be bible covers that one could put a large frame gun in.

You can carry however you want. Your weapon doesn't have to be on your person, but make sure your permit is!

[antsi]

However just walking into a church OC **IS** not bad as the paper is making it out to be.

Ex boyfriend going armed in to a church, looking for the ex girlfriend, when there is an order of protection out against him.

I consider that to be a pretty serious threat.

Upstanding member of the church, coming to church OC on Sunday morning? I don't bat an eye.

[agentl074]

Originally Posted by INGunGuy

IC 35-47-9
Chapter 9. Possession of Firearms on School Property and School Buses
IC 35-47-9-1
Exemptions from chapter
Sec. 1. This chapter does not apply to the following:
(1) A:
(A) federal;
(B) state; or
(C) local;
law enforcement officer.
(2) A person who has been employed or authorized by:
(A) a school; or
(B) another person who owns or operates property being used by a school for a school function;
to act as a security guard, perform or participate in a school function, or participate in any other activity authorized by a school.
(3) A person who:
(A) may legally possess a firearm; and
(B) possesses the firearm in a motor vehicle that is being operated by the person to transport another person to or from a school or a school function.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.11.

IC 35-47-9-2
Possession of firearms on school property, at school function, or on school bus; felony
Sec. 2. A person who possesses a firearm:
(1) in or on school property;
(2) in or on property that is being used by a school for a school function; or
(3) on a school bus;
commits a Class D felony.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.11.

"School bus" defined
Sec. 24.3. "School bus" means any motor vehicle designed and constructed for the accommodation of more than ten (10) passengers, which is used for the transportation of Indiana school children.
As added by P.L.296-1987, SEC.3.
IC 35-41-1-24.7

"School property" defined
Sec. 24.7. "School property" means the following:
(1) A building or other structure owned or rented by:
(A) a school corporation;
(B) an entity that is required to be licensed under IC 12-17.2 or IC 31-27;
(C) a private school that is not supported and maintained by funds realized from the imposition of a tax on property, income, or sales; or
(D) a federal, state, local, or nonprofit program or service operated to serve, assist, or otherwise benefit children who are at least three (3) years of age and not yet enrolled in kindergarten, including the following:
(i) A Head Start program under 42 U.S.C. 9831 et seq.
(ii) A special education preschool program.
(iii) A developmental child care program for preschool children.
(2) The grounds adjacent to and owned or rented in common with a building or other structure described in subdivision (1).
As added by P.L.296-1987, SEC.4. Amended by P.L.34-1991, SEC.27; P.L.9-1991, SEC.95; P.L.2-1992, SEC.880; P.L.81-1992, SEC.38; P.L.1-1993, SEC.240; P.L.160-1994, SEC.1; P.L.1-2005, SEC.227; P.L.145-2006, SEC.370.

And that my friend is why you cant. You cant even carry into church if they have a daycare or school facility that is part of the church.

INGunGuy

Fixed it for ya

[Paco Bedejo]

I carry XDm 40 in an MTAC holster...shirt tucked in & everything. My nephew didn't believe I was carrying until I had him touch the grip thru my shirt...and we'd been wrestling around for awhile before that.