Ever been denied a firearm? - Page 11

SavageEagle · 07-19-2008

.....BUT WAIT!!!! The local government pulled through for me today!!!

I GOT MY LICENSE! I GOT MY LICENSE! YEEEEAAAAAYYYYY!!! Took long e-freaking-nuff... just 3 months and 2 weeks....

I wonder if I can send in a copy to the FBI and see if it speeds the process up...

HiRoller · 07-19-2008

Congratulations...........I've been a little leary of packing since this B.S. started. I think the permit is issued by the information in the State Police records system. They rely on the counties to report to them as well as other States. I have found, as I'm sure your well aware of by now, it's easy to have botched record. A friend of mine's sister works in the firearms records division ,downtown indy, she tells of very limited reporting and long record transit time from courts, if at all. So when IMPD pulls your info up they may have things Jefferson County Sheriff dosen't,as well as the State Trooper checking your DL, just an example but i'm sure the FBI is somewhat more dedicated in their search for some way to screw you around. Having a permit in Indiana dosen't do squat for you in terms of a purchase (leagally) you could buy from someone FTF and carry under leagal pretenses, but if the FBI dosen't clear your name your a felon twice according to them. When the ATF comes to your door with a warrant I personnaly wouldn't know what to do ?? After talking to the NICS they claim they don't communicate with the ATF and denied knowing how they (ATF) could be aware of an attempt to purchase a firearm just by my FFL calling in to do the customary check prior to a sale. So somebody's full of shit in my mind. I just can't figure out which branch of the gov. it is. I spoke with my lawer and he says wait out the NICS, FBI, and the ATF, if it goes down unfavorably we will force our hand of truth on them.

The saga continues...................

SavageEagle · 07-19-2008

you make some good points. The thing is though, that I've never lived anywhere else besides Indy and Southern Indiana. The only trouble I've been in with the law is locally. I've followed the paper trail myself and there is nothing that disqualifies me one bit. So if the denial stands I will be suing someone. BTW, not to question your judgement, but how good is your lawyer? LOL I may need one if the time comes. I doubt it will and I'll be in their VAF file so I don't forsee any problems in the future, but a "just in case" plan B is never a bad thing...

BTW, you can still pack all you want until the appeal is final. That was something I asked the ATF guy. He said it was ok unless the appeal fell through and the denial stuck. But that I would get a letter stating one way or another and that's when you're either ok or a no-no. Also, the NICS divison supercedes the ATF. If the ATF says no, and NICS says yes, you're good. You may have to jump some legal holes, but you're good none the less. From my understanding of the whole process. I could be wrong so correct me if I am, but that's basiclly how the NICS lady explained it to me.

Josh Smith · 07-23-2008

If nothing else, Savage, you'll be coming through this with quite an education

SavageEagle · 07-23-2008

Already there man, already there. And due to being a pack rat has saved my ass in this case. Had I not had records dating back to 98 I would have been hauled off in ATF cuffs!

Bigum1969 · 07-23-2008

When this is all finished, you should definitely sum it up in one document. It would be quite a read.

SavageEagle · 07-23-2008

I figured since I have two copier/printer/scanners no one wants to buy, I'd just scan all the paperwork, blacking out the personal stuff, so that everyone can see what the process looks like and the BS they tell you. Unfortunately I already sent in the VAF form, but it's downloaded in PDF form. Anyone can get it from the NICS website. I was just gonna scan all the letter crap so you can all see the BS they put you through.

SavageEagle · 08-08-2008

I WON I WON I WON I WON I WON I WON!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA YES!

FINALLY after months of waiting and wondering and suffering I finally won my appeal!!!! I swear to GOD as my witness I will NEVER EVER sell this SWEET, SWEET pistol....

Just Got Her Home..

Home Opener...

Oooo shes pretty...

Look pretty for the camera!

FEED ME!!!!

I will be compiling my paperwork and blacking out the personal material. Give me a day or two to get acquainted with my Baby and I'll do a full write up on my experiance. If I get lost in the lovely, smack me and I'll get to writing!

atriot:

GetA2J · 08-08-2008

Congratulations Ryan!!!!!!

SavageEagle · 08-08-2008

Thanks man!

Again, with the help of God, good prevails over evil! Take that you anti-gunners!

View Poll Results: Have you ever been denied a firearm?
Yes and I appealed and won	4	3.36%
Yes and I appealed and lost	0	0%
Yes but I didn't appeal	0	0%
No	115	96.64%
Voters: 119. You may not vote on this poll

07-19-2008	#101 (permalink)
SavageEagle Walking Tall Amongst The Sheeple Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Plainfield Posts: 1,776	.....BUT WAIT!!!! The local government pulled through for me today!!! I GOT MY LICENSE! I GOT MY LICENSE! YEEEEAAAAAYYYYY!!! Took long e-freaking-nuff... just 3 months and 2 weeks.... I wonder if I can send in a copy to the FBI and see if it speeds the process up... __________________ *ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU'RE FREE!!!!*

07-19-2008	#102 (permalink)
HiRoller One minute closer to death Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indianapolis East Posts: 134	Congratulations...........I've been a little leary of packing since this B.S. started. I think the permit is issued by the information in the State Police records system. They rely on the counties to report to them as well as other States. I have found, as I'm sure your well aware of by now, it's easy to have botched record. A friend of mine's sister works in the firearms records division ,downtown indy, she tells of very limited reporting and long record transit time from courts, if at all. So when IMPD pulls your info up they may have things Jefferson County Sheriff dosen't,as well as the State Trooper checking your DL, just an example but i'm sure the FBI is somewhat more dedicated in their search for some way to screw you around. Having a permit in Indiana dosen't do squat for you in terms of a purchase (leagally) you could buy from someone FTF and carry under leagal pretenses, but if the FBI dosen't clear your name your a felon twice according to them. When the ATF comes to your door with a warrant I personnaly wouldn't know what to do ?? After talking to the NICS they claim they don't communicate with the ATF and denied knowing how they (ATF) could be aware of an attempt to purchase a firearm just by my FFL calling in to do the customary check prior to a sale. So somebody's full of shit in my mind. I just can't figure out which branch of the gov. it is. I spoke with my lawer and he says wait out the NICS, FBI, and the ATF, if it goes down unfavorably we will force our hand of truth on them. The saga continues................... __________________ Life, Libery, and the pursuit of Happiness

07-19-2008	#103 (permalink)
SavageEagle Walking Tall Amongst The Sheeple Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Plainfield Posts: 1,776	you make some good points. The thing is though, that I've never lived anywhere else besides Indy and Southern Indiana. The only trouble I've been in with the law is locally. I've followed the paper trail myself and there is nothing that disqualifies me one bit. So if the denial stands I will be suing someone. BTW, not to question your judgement, but how good is your lawyer? LOL I may need one if the time comes. I doubt it will and I'll be in their VAF file so I don't forsee any problems in the future, but a "just in case" plan B is never a bad thing... BTW, you can still pack all you want until the appeal is final. That was something I asked the ATF guy. He said it was ok unless the appeal fell through and the denial stuck. But that I would get a letter stating one way or another and that's when you're either ok or a no-no. Also, the NICS divison supercedes the ATF. If the ATF says no, and NICS says yes, you're good. You may have to jump some legal holes, but you're good none the less. From my understanding of the whole process. I could be wrong so correct me if I am, but that's basiclly how the NICS lady explained it to me. __________________ *ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU'RE FREE!!!!*

07-23-2008	#104 (permalink)
Josh Smith Marksman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wabash Posts: 421	If nothing else, Savage, you'll be coming through this with quite an education __________________ The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar? I am a victim of State sponsored terrorism.

07-23-2008	#105 (permalink)
SavageEagle Walking Tall Amongst The Sheeple Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Plainfield Posts: 1,776	Already there man, already there. And due to being a pack rat has saved my ass in this case. Had I not had records dating back to 98 I would have been hauled off in ATF cuffs! __________________ *ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU'RE FREE!!!!*

07-23-2008	#106 (permalink)
Bigum1969 Paranoid and Currently Being Chased Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SW Indiana Posts: 1,496	When this is all finished, you should definitely sum it up in one document. It would be quite a read. __________________ Audentes fortuna juvet

07-23-2008	#107 (permalink)
SavageEagle Walking Tall Amongst The Sheeple Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Plainfield Posts: 1,776	I figured since I have two copier/printer/scanners no one wants to buy, I'd just scan all the paperwork, blacking out the personal stuff, so that everyone can see what the process looks like and the BS they tell you. Unfortunately I already sent in the VAF form, but it's downloaded in PDF form. Anyone can get it from the NICS website. I was just gonna scan all the letter crap so you can all see the BS they put you through. __________________ *ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU'RE FREE!!!!*

08-08-2008	#108 (permalink)
SavageEagle Walking Tall Amongst The Sheeple Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Plainfield Posts: 1,776	I WON I WON I WON I WON I WON I WON!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA YES! FINALLY after months of waiting and wondering and suffering I finally won my appeal!!!! I swear to GOD as my witness I will NEVER EVER sell this SWEET, SWEET pistol.... Just Got Her Home.. Home Opener... Oooo shes pretty... Look pretty for the camera! FEED ME!!!! I will be compiling my paperwork and blacking out the personal material. Give me a day or two to get acquainted with my Baby and I'll do a full write up on my experiance. If I get lost in the lovely, smack me and I'll get to writing! atriot: __________________ *ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU'RE FREE!!!!*

08-08-2008	#109 (permalink)
GetA2J Marksman Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Terre Haute,Indiana Posts: 560	Congratulations Ryan!!!!!! __________________ GetA2J = Get Addicted To Jesus

08-08-2008	#110 (permalink)
SavageEagle Walking Tall Amongst The Sheeple Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Plainfield Posts: 1,776	Thanks man! Again, with the help of God, good prevails over evil! Take that you anti-gunners! __________________ *ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU'RE FREE!!!!*

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