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Old 08-24-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Deported Mexicans face broken lives - Americas - MSNBC.com

I just read this story on the deportation of Mexicans back to Mexico. Besides the liberal side of this article making their rightful deportation so difficult. The one thing that really stuck out to me was this....

Alejandro Fonseca was convicted on drug charges and deported last year. He now lives in Tijuana with his American wife and three U.S.-born children.They have survived by eating at the Salvation Army shelter in a rough Tijuana neighborhood near the border. But his 13-year-old daughter has missed a year of school. She cannot go to school in Mexico because she does not speak Spanish.

If a neighboring country will not cater to English speaking persons then why in the hell do we cater to them?
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Because of the lib panzies
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I worked in Europe for a little while and MOST of those countries require you to be FLUENT in the language to even apply for there work permits..... Why cant we at least do this
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Deported Mexicans face broken lives - Americas - MSNBC.com

I just read this story on the deportation of Mexicans back to Mexico. Besides the liberal side of this article making their rightful deportation so difficult. The one thing that really stuck out to me was this....

Alejandro Fonseca was convicted on drug charges and deported last year. He now lives in Tijuana with his American wife and three U.S.-born children.They have survived by eating at the Salvation Army shelter in a rough Tijuana neighborhood near the border. But his 13-year-old daughter has missed a year of school. She cannot go to school in Mexico because she does not speak Spanish.

If a neighboring country will not cater to English speaking persons then why in the hell do we cater to them?

She could've stayed in the United States with the kids since they are all citizens. He's just lucky he isn't in prison. And, we're lucky not to have to pay to keep him incarcerated.
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She could've stayed in the United States with the kids since they are all citizens. He's just lucky he isn't in prison. And, we're lucky not to have to pay to keep him incarcerated.

I thought the same thing. The wife and kids have options, they could have stayed here and went to school.
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not so many options for the woman in her opinion... if you had been married for x number of years and had three kids with that person, you're pretty committed right? And if some government agency said, Oh, I'm sorry, your husband is here illegally, so we're going to have to take him away from you and the kids... would you stay here or go with the husband you obviously love? I doubt they had a lot of money to go hop over to Mexico every weekend to visit Dad, if they're "surviving" by eating at the SA shelter.

*shrug* I doubt she really felt she had any option emotionally but to stay with him, even if legally she could stay here.
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If he's in TJ (that what we called Tijuana when I grew up in So Cal), she could live in San Diego and visit on the weekends.

If the man were still in the US, he'd be in prison. She'd be driving hours to visit him during visitors hours.

I get they are in "Luuuuuuvvv", but do what's best for your kids.

She could, and probably would, be able to collect welfare and some type of family assistance ten minutes North of TJ in San Diego. They are for sure not getting any government assistance in Mexico.

Remember, he was convicted of drug charges. That's why he was deported.
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not so many options for the woman in her opinion... if you had been married for x number of years and had three kids with that person, you're pretty committed right? And if some government agency said, Oh, I'm sorry, your husband is here illegally, so we're going to have to take him away from you and the kids... would you stay here or go with the husband you obviously love? I doubt they had a lot of money to go hop over to Mexico every weekend to visit Dad, if they're "surviving" by eating at the SA shelter.

*shrug* I doubt she really felt she had any option emotionally but to stay with him, even if legally she could stay here.
I also see it this way. It wasn't that the Feds decided he was he illegally even though he was. He committed a crime, a crime that if convicted will get him deported even if he was here legally. He didn't think of that when he was doing it now did he? How was he taking care of them then? His wife and kids do have other choices. They do not have to follow in his footsteps. They are not the ones that committed the crime and got deported. Just my
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*shrug* I doubt she really felt she had any option emotionally but to stay with him, even if legally she could stay here.
I'm betting she and the kids went with him to Mexico less because they're "in lurve" and more because she has no job skills by which she could support herself and the kids and didn't want them taken by CPS. Besides, when you're used to living on big drug money, welfare just don't cut it.

The point the OP was making, though, is that their schools won't allow her to go because she doesn't speak Spanish. Ours, OTOH, have no such limitation, but probably should. Ditto on work visas.

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The point the OP was making, though, is that their schools won't allow her to go because she doesn't speak Spanish. Ours, OTOH, have no such limitation, but probably should. Ditto on work visas.
Bill, you are correct. That is what I was getting at.
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