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Old 06-28-2009   #1 (permalink)
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I've been considering becoming a INGO advertiser as I currently manufacture many items firearms related right here in good ole Indiana. However, I've been hesitant as the riff-raff rants and undermining of some of the other advertisers & individual sellers left me concerned that INGO would go the way of other sites I supported in the past of which I terminated my relationship due to the constant drama. I'm glad to see the effort to maintain a quality standard, certain level of professionalism, along with some ethics & moral values. And remember.....
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We would welcome any advertising supporter, and understand your reservations. We also welcome your support as a poster even if you cannot advertise here.

But at the same time, posters need to understand that this is not about advertisers. It is about the mission of this site, and Fenway's vision for it. This is his house. Please act accordingly.
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50 posts is a pretty simple thing to do, adding the modifier "quality" is what drives us. It means that you have something valid to add to the conversation, either statement or question. There is nothing wrong with asking questions about something that is over your head if it helps you understand. From watching the way this site operates it seems this place is centered on the idea of expanding the knowledge base and comradere of gun owners in this state.

I read a whole lot of posts, and often I am tempted to reply but then I realize that I only have one or two lines worth of text to say. This isn't a cheesy teen movie where one liners stick, this is a place that I come when I need to know something or want to talk to someone that doesn't make me want to put my face through a window.

If you guys think that "quality" is to vague then perhaps we could use the reputation system. Then it would be your peers that decide when you can post ads, and they could also remove that ability from you. That would at least be easier for the moderators than reading your posts before granting access. A subjective system is going to be implemented, what you have to ask is do you trust the people making the ruling, and do you feel that what you have to say has enough substance to deem you worthy?
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50 posts is a pretty simple thing to do, adding the modifier "quality" is what drives us.
I understand. I wish there was a better way. Really.

Hours, and hours, dinners, emails, PM's, heated discussions, and years have been spent on this...

No one is more frustrated by this than the Mods. Had people not gamed the system, worked around intent, played the site, and generally worked against our best ideas, none of this would be necessary.

It is what it is, as imperfect and absolute as it is.
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GOOD! This will trim the fat without requiring any additional changes
like making the classifieds a site supporter only option or a pay go option.

Boys and girls this should help greatly (read eliminate) with the 10 poster living in the
classifieds area. Just look at the counts, do a search and see where
all their posting is done.

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Wow, I really cant follow the way of thinking in this thread. Personally, I would welcome an Indiana classified that let any hoosier sell their firearms and parts to another. Quality post count blah blah blah, who cares? Whats the difference? Why would anyone care if somebody wanted to drop by and sell a gun he/she no longer wanted? It sounds elitist to support an idea that you must "be in the club" so to speak in order to qualify to sell something. When we go furniture shopping, do we ask the salesman how many customers he has helped in the past, and if it was quality help. No, that would be rediculous and just flapping your gums over nothing.

You know what they say about opinions
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Wow, I really cant follow the way of thinking in this thread. Personally, I would welcome an Indiana classified that let any hoosier sell their firearms and parts to another. Quality post count blah blah blah, who cares? Whats the difference? Why would anyone care if somebody wanted to drop by and sell a gun he/she no longer wanted? It sounds elitist to support an idea that you must "be in the club" so to speak in order to qualify to sell something. When we go furniture shopping, do we ask the salesman how many customers he has helped in the past, and if it was quality help. No, that would be rediculous and just flapping your gums over nothing.

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We care because this site was not started to become a free classifieds for people to sell their firearms. This site was started to be a safe, reliable, knowledgeable place for people in and around Indiana to discuss firearms. The Classifieds were added as a perk. As such, we want people to come here for the information that can be found, not because we have a Classifieds section.
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Personally, I would welcome an Indiana classified that let any hoosier sell their firearms and parts to another.
That is not what this forum is about. If you simply want to buy and sell guns/ammo, you'll have to create your own site. INGO is a community... if you want to buy/sell/trade, then become part of the community. I don't understand why that's so hard for some people to "get".

Oh, and way to go Fenway/mods. As part of the INGO community, I like the new rule.

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Jenny, I "get" exactly what you are saying. I dont agree with it. No big deal! When I have something constructive to say that hasnt already been said, I will say it here on Ingo

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Wow, I really cant follow the way of thinking in this thread. Personally, I would welcome an Indiana classified that let any hoosier sell their firearms and parts to another. Quality post count blah blah blah, who cares? Whats the difference? Why would anyone care if somebody wanted to drop by and sell a gun he/she no longer wanted? It sounds elitist to support an idea that you must "be in the club" so to speak in order to qualify to sell something. When we go furniture shopping, do we ask the salesman how many customers he has helped in the past, and if it was quality help. No, that would be rediculous and just flapping your gums over nothing.

You know what they say about opinions
Want a free place to sell something and not have to complain about a mere 50 quality posts on a great web site that has thousands of great people willing to share their knowledge and wisdom, and provide help to others when needed?

If your are not happy with INGO, try
HoosierTopics.com

It's free, and so are the headaches that go with it also, plus you'll get out of it exactly what they put into it, NOTHING.

INGO is not about items that you or others have for sale, it's something that Fenway let's us have as an extra benefit of being part of the INGO community.

It's not about selling things, it's about being part of the community, part of the Indiana Gun Owners community, people who share a common interest in gun ownership and the fellowship that it provides.
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