Chronic long term medical

[GPD177]

I have a thought that has been bothering me for a while. About three years ago at age 36, I was diagnosed with diabetes. So far I am lucky and dont have to shoot insulin, I just take a pill morning and evening and watch what I eat. I was bummed really bad at first but I have learned to deal with it. The thing that has been really gnawing at me is what happens to me if S really HTF. Not talking about a temp thing like a riot or Katrina but something long term and sustained. The treatment/meds for my current condition are very simple (basic cheap drug and food choice) but if we have a societal breakdown and I cant get the meds I need, then I will prolly be a goner with in a year from it. It kind of defeats the purpose of stocking up on everything. Are any of you in the same boat and if so what are your plans?

[smokingman]

1.I would try to stock up on any meds I could.
2.Find an alternative to your meds you could still access.

A few things you may not know Try lots of onion and garlic in your diet.Just do not breath on me k?
Allium cepa: (onion)
Various ether soluble fractions as well as insoluble fractions of dried onion powder show anti-hyperglycemic activity in diabetic rabbits. Allium cepa is also known to have antioxidant and hypolipidaemic activity. Administration of a sulfur containing amino acid from Allium cepa, S-methyl cysteine sulphoxide (SMCS) (200 mg/kg for 45 days) to alloxan induced diabetic rats significantly controlled blood glucose as well as lipids in serum and tissues and normalized the activities of liver hexokinase, glucose 6-phosphatase and HMG Co A reductase [18, 19]. When diabetic patients were given single oral dose of 50 g of onion juice, it significantly controlled post-prandial glucose levels [20].

Allium sativum: (garlic)
This is a perennial herb cultivated throughout the world. Allicin, a sulfur-containing compound is responsible for its pungent odour and it has been shown to have significant hypoglycemic activity [21]. This effect is thought to be due to increased hepatic metabolism, increased insulin release from pancreatic beta cells and/or insulin sparing effect [22]. Aqueous homogenate of garlic (10 ml/kg/day) administered orally to sucrose fed rabbits (10 g/kg/day in water for two months) significantly increased hepatic glycogen and free amino acid content, decreased fasting blood glucose, and triglyceride levels in serum in comparison to sucrose controls [23].
S-allyl cystein sulfoxide (SACS), the precursor of allicin and garlic oil, is a sulfur containing amino acid, which controlled lipid peroxidation better than glibenclamide and insulin. It also improved diabetic conditions. SACS also stimulated in vitro insulin secretion from beta cells isolated from normal rats [24]. Apart from this, Allium sativum exhibits antimicrobial, anticancer and cardioprotective activities.

[Joe Williams]

You may be able to control with diet alone, as I am. Seems like Drs automatically prescribe pills, as they did with me. But whatever it was they prescribed me (Glubyride or something similar) I really hated, it kept making me dizzy. I asked the doc if we could try going without meds, and with aggressive control over what I'm eating I'm keeping most tests in the 100-125 range, only twice over 150 in six month since being diagnosed, both times I knew I was pushing.

I do take medicine for a heart arythmia, but as I continue losing weight and getting in shape the pulse is slowing on it's own, and I've learned ways to stop an episode if they occur. If SHTF, I'd have to find ways to make do, valsalva maneuver and taking a nap being the two most likely for me.

Surviving an emergency situation is all about "never give up, never surrender." If you know you have medical issues, find ways around them. If you HAVE to have meds, stock up on them as much as you can. Do whatever it takes, cause a Dr ain't gonna be much help, to be honest.

[Mr.Hoppes]

I also am Diabetic and was on insulin and many many meds for related issues.

Plan: reduce your current BGL's and overstock your meds, as you reduce your need for them.

In the situation: Activity levels wil increase, poor food choices will be reduced, and more healthy natural foods will become the norm, all leading to a reduced need for the medications you will stock up.


Adult onset diabetes is less likely to produce the dibilitating effects of diabetes in a short time frame, and is easier to control. Good news for you.

Medical conditions that should also be planned for are High blood pressure and gout, which often are found in diabetics at some point.

All current medical conditions should be prepared for either by stocking meds or by finding alternative methodes for treatment.

Also stocking of besic medical supplies is advised and discussed at length in other threads. There are also courses in first aide that are advised as training for difficult situations.

[hountzmj]

I think the best case for you is what others have outlined above. Get what medication you can and keep it in stock.

Also plan for what you will when you run out of meds.

I hate to say it but you probably need to accept that you aren't going to live till you're 75 if SHTF. Most of us won't anyway. But folks with chronic diseases are just that much closer to the edge.

[Dr Falken]

I know the OP spoke of "in the instrance of a compleate societal breakdown", but remember as far as preps go, look at the most likely and personal and move out from there. Which means that preps such as debt reduction and food storage are just as likely to help in an "I lost my job" situation as much as "I've survived a nuclear war". So keep prepping and figure out the diabetes situation as it is just another part of the puzzle. Seems like you got some good advice, so just keep on keeping on!

[Arm America]

All of the above postings are excellent responses to your excellent question.

Your question should be a wake up call to anyone that takes
medication per Doctor's orders.

We all would like to think we can protect our families,
feed our families and carry on with whats available.

To do this, a person needs to be an asset, not a liability.
Being prepped with meds. is a giant step in the right direction.

[oldfb]

Dude we that are sick are goners. But keep prepping so there is something for the rest to scrounge in the aftermath. lol

We still have to make the best effort to help our family, friends and ourselves. I for one laugh about it with my family but I know that my conditions make me a liability unless I focus on what I can do to help. Even if I only would survive for a year. That will be a year that I am determined to man a security post to the best of my ability. When we know there is no tomorrow it allows us to make today count. So plan and prep for the worst. Pray for the best.
And if the SHTF shoot every scumbag in your zone while you still have air in your lungs and never give up!

This is my plan. Yours is up to you.

[Mr.Hoppes]

Originally Posted by oldfb

Dude we that are sick are goners. But keep prepping so there is something for the rest to scrounge in the aftermath. lol

We still have to make the best effort to help our family, friends and ourselves. I for one laugh about it with my family but I know that my conditions make me a liability unless I focus on what I can do to help. Even if I only would survive for a year. That will be a year that I am determined to man a security post to the best of my ability. When we know there is no tomorrow it allows us to make today count. So plan and prep for the worst. Pray for the best.
And if the SHTF shoot every scumbag in your zone while you still have air in your lungs and never give up!

This is my plan. Yours is up to you.

Our Planned persons of intrest list includes people who are not security assets. There is a teacher and medical, Married couple who we plan on coming with us. There are others who I have on my list for various reasons, that some may look at as not an asset. Some one who can help keep the household running as I an mine attend to our security, is an asset to us.
So while you have the time think out your skill set and train accordingly. Medical persons with solid first aide, and a second skill could be of use to alot of persons groups I am sure.

Food for thought, so to speak.

[GPD177]

The things that really sucks is that other than my suger going nuts a few years ago, I am in good health and very phsyically fit. That is what so bummed me out when I found out that I had it. I always assumed just the big lard arses got it. Since then I have seen a lot of skinny people with it. Doc said that a lot of times it comes with overweight and poor diet. But that there are also genetic causes and possible viral issues as well. I do think that if SHTF really happens, the reduced diet will really reduce the need for the meds.