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Old 06-03-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Shame on me and shame on you!...

... for not pushing harder on this part of the forum.

As I'm watching the TV reports and listening to the LEO's, on the scanner, not letting residents get to their storm damaged property, I feel unprepared.

We had an earthquake a while back and the main topic of discussion was zombies? It's time to get serious about this stuff folks, don't you think?
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Yes. But, all the prepping in the world will never prepare you for EVERY possible situation. I keep a lighter, surefire and a few nutrigrain bars in my backpack when I go on campus. My plan relies on me being able to get back to my house for real survival. Yes, there are HUGE downfalls to that plan, but in all reality, that is what I would have to do.

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Yes. But, all the prepping in the world will never prepare you for EVERY possible situation. I keep a lighter, surefire and a few nutrigrain bars in my backpack when I go on campus. My plan relies on me being able to get back to my house for real survival. Yes, there are HUGE downfalls to that plan, but in all reality, that is what I would have to do.

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That's a part of what I'm getting at, Nate. LEO's won't let people back to their residences.
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You can't prep for a Tornado, Unless you have an Underground shelter. My parents in texas had one installed in their new house several years ago.

I've been prepping since Jan 01 and if a Tornado hits the house my preps are toast.

I'm probably ok for a near miss, but if I get a dirtect hit, my MRE's are going to be in Ohio.

I can just see some Buckeye watching buckets of wheat, Rice, beans and pasta fall into his front yard from a clear blue sky.
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You can't prep for a Tornado, Unless you have an Underground shelter. My parents in texas had one installed in their new house several years ago.

I've been prepping since Jan 01 and if a Tornado hits the house my preps are toast.

I'm probably ok for a near miss, but if I get a dirtect hit, my MRE's are going to be in Ohio.

I can just see some Buckeye watching buckets of wheat, Rice, beans and pasta fall into his front yard from a clear blue sky.

My thoughts exactly. Natural disaster rolls around and you're not at home, there is no way, short of dragging a trailer with all your supplies around, that you will be 100% prepared. Pack some supplies in your car (I don't have one), but you will need to get to your residence. Police block it off, find a way to get their anyway. I will never be more than .5 miles from my house, so I hope to be able to get home before the disaster, but no one can be prepped for everything.

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My thoughts too. It is 80-90% likely I'll be at home. That said, a couple years ago my truck took a few 1" hail stones, as opposed to being in the barn at home.

I live in the hills, so not as likely a direct hit. More chances of strait line winds, tree damage, power outages and road closings. If I'm home the objective is to stay there and not be forced to evacuate. If I'm not home, the objective is to get there and do the same.

The basic plan is to stay in the house, if habitable. If not, to pitch tents on the property. The idea being to rebuild and, or defend my property.
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I have done little things here and there, but I haven't made a dedicated effort yet. I had planned on getting a bunch of items this week/weekend.

My main issue is storage, but I will have that figured out this week.
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Water is a big issue, even/especially in urban/suburban areas because a water main can easily break. Most people are totally unprepared to go without water for 24 to 72 hours. We have our own well. We pump our own. We have a back up generator to power the well, all critical circuits in the house, and some convenience circuits. 3 fireplaces for heat, plus the generator will power the furnace. We are betting that we won't lose natural gas for the furnace. The generator runs on natural gas, propane and gasoline, I have all 3 fuels available. We keep enough food to keep us happy for a while, but not anywhere near 6 months worth.

We lost power for 8 days during an ice storm a few years ago. During that same storm our only ingress/egress roadway was blocked for the first 3.5 days. We got along fine.

I think the likelihood of those types of disasters are the most probable. Toss in tornados and that is was is most likely to hit Indiana.
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You can't really blame LE for keeping people out after a disaster. How would you go about letting the right people in anyway? Check ID? Take the apartment complex that was hit Friday. First you would have the rightful owners trying to get in and then the people who are rubbernecking, then the ones looking to steal anything they can get their hands on. Of course then you will have the "disenfranchised" who will claim they have NO ID to show. You also have to keep in mind the danger of letting people in due to down power lines and broken glass and other obstacles. We had a fire at our home once and while the FD was placing fans to get the smoke out I noticed several people inside our house who were not in turn-out gear. I questioned them and it seems these were people who just saw the fire and wanted to see what it looked like inside!! They had parked on the road in front and just walked in. The LE and FD knew me personally and just thought these people were OK to be there. One even refused to leave when I told him too, asked me who I thought I was. Anyway he left. My suggestion is to carry enough supplies in your vehicle to last a day or so in case of something like this, including a firearm of some sort. That all being said, personally I would still try to get into my home one way or the other. As an earlier post said if LE blocks off the way in there is always another way. If nothing else camp out so YOU can watch your property.
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Water is a big issue, even/especially in urban/suburban areas because a water main can easily break. Most people are totally unprepared to go without water for 24 to 72 hours. We have our own well. We pump our own. We have a back up generator to power the well, all critical circuits in the house, and some convenience circuits. 3 fireplaces for heat, plus the generator will power the furnace. We are betting that we won't lose natural gas for the furnace. The generator runs on natural gas, propane and gasoline, I have all 3 fuels available. We keep enough food to keep us happy for a while, but not anywhere near 6 months worth.

We lost power for 8 days during an ice storm a few years ago. During that same storm our only ingress/egress roadway was blocked for the first 3.5 days. We got along fine.

I think the likelihood of those types of disasters are the most probable. Toss in tornados and that is was is most likely to hit Indiana.
Water is one thing I think I am good on. I usually only drink water as is, so I buy it in bulk at Sam's Club. I currently keep a reserve of at least 9 cases, with 32 bottles each. At 16.9 oz per bottle, that's 38 gallons of water. It's in sealed bottles, which will keep it clean, and make for ease of rationing and transportation. I also have my 3+ cases that I normally keep on hand that I stock the refrigerator with.


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You can't really blame LE for keeping people out after a disaster. How would you go about letting the right people in anyway? Check ID? Take the apartment complex that was hit Friday. First you would have the rightful owners trying to get in and then the people who are rubbernecking, then the ones looking to steal anything they can get their hands on. Of course then you will have the "disenfranchised" who will claim they have NO ID to show. You also have to keep in mind the danger of letting people in due to down power lines and broken glass and other obstacles. We had a fire at our home once and while the FD was placing fans to get the smoke out I noticed several people inside our house who were not in turn-out gear. I questioned them and it seems these were people who just saw the fire and wanted to see what it looked like inside!! They had parked on the road in front and just walked in. The LE and FD knew me personally and just thought these people were OK to be there. One even refused to leave when I told him too, asked me who I thought I was. Anyway he left. My suggestion is to carry enough supplies in your vehicle to last a day or so in case of something like this, including a firearm of some sort. That all being said, personally I would still try to get into my home one way or the other. As an earlier post said if LE blocks off the way in there is always another way. If nothing else camp out so YOU can watch your property.
I live on a dead end, so the chances of being able to find another way to drive in is slim to none. I could always walk through to my house, but then I would have to leave my truck behind somewhere.
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