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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | LP Generator Well after being w/o power for another 24 hours I feel the need to buy a generator. The neighbors claim that power has been out in this area for up to 3 weeks. I could not afford the propane for an extended outage of 3 weeks but it would be nice to have 24 or so hours of electric capability. Onan +$$'s Generac +$'s BSA +$'s I could go cheap and try to run a gas unit and only keep the fridge running and 1 or 2 lights. Again, I hate to spend that much money on what really is a necessity. Well Water Refrigerator/Freezer Lights/TV Heat or AC Anyone familiar with these, recommendations, dealer, sales pricing etc. Thanks
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| INGO Cardinal of Communications ![]() | Growing up in Waukesha Wisconsin I'm familiar with Generac as a bunch of people I knew worked there. Outside of that, I dunno anything useful. Sorry :(
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'd love to build up a good Lister Engine setup, but there is quite a bit of time and tinkering involved that I don't have right now. However, treated diesel would last for almost a decade and do very well for a decently long term power situation. Many are starting it with diesel and running old fry oil through it. This has many advantages for a TEOTWHAWKI situation. The problem with Gas generators is that Gas doesn't store long, even when treated. It wouldn't be hard to rotate storage, just filling up cars with it for a while, but you have to do that. Propane and NG generators require tons of fuel. I don't know the right answer. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | My generator is a tri-fuel, runs on gas, LP and NG. I wrote about it here: http://ingunowners.com/forums/surviv..._on_you-2.html If you have any questions I'll be happy to answer them if I can. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Sarge I found this site helpful. It has a 5 step process that helps you determine what size and type of generator will fit your needs. Standby Generators - How to Pick the Perfect Standby Generator @ ElectricGeneratorsDirect.com - Home Standby Generator, Emergency Standby Generator, Backup Standby Generator, Emergency Home Standby Generator I decided to go with a 17.5KW portable versus a stationary perminent fixture type. Considering if the house is partially demolished or otherwise unlivable. Or the local authorities prevent homeowners access to their own homes. What good would it do me, unless I could wheel it around or throw it in a truck or trailer.
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I think I got it from Melens post that the LP and NG models don't produce as much output as those of gas. I'm thinking when I put out the bucks for all this, I'll get two of the 16Gal fuel staorage tanks. Figure I could rotate it out using it in the various mowers/trimmers/chainsaw/blower tools during some of the summer. Then have both filled up for the winter for JIC scenarios, I hate the friggen cold.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | You must understand that when talking about "efficiency" of these small generators, and anything that you or I might get for our house is basically a small unit, we are talking about glorified lawn tractor engines for most brands. They are what they are and not much more! When you get up into the 20KW units, which is about the smallest of the generators where water cooled slow RPM engines come into play (1800 rpm versus 3600 rpm) then you can start to get into greater efficiency units. But the last time I checked, and I admit that I have not in great detail looked over the past 12 months, you didn't really find too many of the water cooled, 1600 rpm generators that were smaller sized units. The question is, how much are you willing to spend for efficiency for something that you HOPE you NEVER have to use, but when you do use it you will spend money running it? I guess I look at these things from the standpoint that even if it costs $25 per day to run my generator on natural gas, I am hopefully only using it for a few days a year. So if mine is a "low" efficiency unit and yours is a "high" efficiency unit then maybe you save 50% of what I spend??? So presume you spend $12.50 per day running yours . . . and presume we both run ours for 5 days per year . . . I will have spent $125 per year while you will have spent $75 . . . over a 10 year period you would save $750. BTW, on some years I've run my generator 5 days, on other years I've probably run it for no more than 12 hours. The worst we had was 8 days in the winter. In the summer if the power goes out you will only run your generator maybe 6 to 12 hours a day to power your well, refrigerators, etc. But there is NO NEED to run them 24/7 during a power failure. What is the cost difference between the generators? Or do you have to increase the size (and therefor the cost) to get a "high" efficiency unit? Might be worth it? Like I wrote in the other thread, when I bought mine the choices were a lot slimmer than they are today. Things may be a bit different. |
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