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  • cedartop

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    Where: Rangemaster in Memphis, TN

    Who taught it: Tom Givens and most of his staff. (About 10 people)

    Who took it: 20 eager students. Some were already instructors, like myself, two TR guys, Wes Elliot, who owns a large facility in the OKC area and I became friends with over the 3 day class, and many more. Oh yeah, also two of your very own, VERT, and CraigH.:yesway:

    When: Aug 2-4 2013.

    Why: In my case a couple of reasons. One, to become a better teacher of course. Especially in the area of diagnosing problems.
    Second, with a student track record of 63 student involved gunfights with 61 wins, 0 losses, and 2 forfeits, I wanted to see what he was teaching.

    What was it:

    It turned out to be pretty evenly divided between shooting, and classroom. I fired somewhere between 8-900 rounds. This covered much of what is taught to the students, as well as drills and qualification courses. There were two quals for record. The current FBI course, and one of Tom's. We had to score a 90% or better on both of them to pass. FBI agents have to score an 80%, their instructors a 90. The second day I managed to shoot the FBI course clean, but of course that one didn't count. When it actually mattered on day 3, I dropped a couple of shots and scored a 95%. On Toms test that has tighter scoring, I shot a 95.6% Not bad, but could have been better.

    As far as the classroom portion went, there were a whole lot of subjects covered. From Adult learning theory, to levels of force, to the law, to Nomenclature, to Marksmanship to dry practice procedures, Coaching, Tactics, Safety, etc., etc, etc. This too we were tested on. This testing was done in the form of a written test, and an oral presentation. While I had no problem with the oral presentation and did quite well (IMHO), I did not study enough for the written test and only scored a 92.9%. Getting old is hell, in my younger days I would not have studied at all and still got a 100%.

    It was a great weekend with good people and I am not even beginning to scratch the surface with this report. One of the things I wanted to mention though was the performance of VERT and CraigH. They were not only great guys, but even with the stiff competition they stood out. I was VERY impressed with their performance. Both of them graduated IN THE TOP 5 OF ALL STUDENTS! Congratulations Guys! It was great to train and learn with you.
     

    VERT

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    Thank you for starting this thread Mike! I have been meaning to put up an AAR and even have some notes. What I envisioned was an ESRICE quality post, but I am neither that good at note taking or writing. So, I am going to skip the notes all together and type this up by tacking onto what you started.

    Regarding the RangeMaster tests. I am not sure anybody could score 100% on the written or the RangeMaster shooting exam. The rumor among the instructors on my end of the range was that they have only seen one student shoot the course of fire cleanly. I gave it my all but still managed to drop a shot or two. The written exam overall was not as tough as I thought it would be. However, there were a few questions that asked in such a way as to trip a person up. I don't think anybody scored perfect. All of the students scored very high on the tests and the competition for "Top Gun" was stiff. Craig finished #2 and I finished #3 in the class. The difference between 1st to 3rd was less then 1 point. (Craig edged me out by 1/2 a point. Yes he is still the master and I am but the padawan. Don't tell him though or it will go to his head.) Not the average but total score. So 1 bad shot or one missed question on the written and a person was out of the running.

    Somebody I have to give credit to is Mrs. Vert. Craig and I did not go out for dinner either night. After class we cleaned guns, studied, discussed the days activities and worked on our presentations. Julie made sure we had dinner. Pizza on Friday night and Memphis BBQ on Saturday. We had to clean our guns while waiting for dinner. We were very much in the minority in that we were shooting "outdated guns" (i.e. 1911's). On Sunday during one of the presentations one student asked who cleaned their guns the previous evening. I think we were the only ones who raised our hands. Yes they need a little more TLC, but man can those big .45s punch easy to see holes in the paper!

    On to the AAR:

    My equipment (Because this is INGO and I know everybody wants to know.): I carried my Wilson Combat Tactical Elite in an OWB Wilson Lo Profile pancake holster and double magazine pouch. Everything stayed where it should on my BeltMan gun belt. This has become my first choice for not only carry but recreational shooting as well. I did pack my Glock 23 and Comp-Tac Mtac as a spare gun. The course also requires shooting about 20 rounds from a J-Frame revolver. So my S&W642 made the trip as well. We were told to bring 1000 rounds of quality FMJ ammunition. I estimate that I shot 850 rounds over the course of the weekend. The Wilson Combat ran great. I had one failure to feed during the first box of ammunition. I was trying to conserve my better ammo for later in the course so I purchased a couple of boxes of Federal Champion at WalMart. I had never tried that load in my gun before. The shot felt very light so I am pretty sure a cartridge was a bit undercharged. One quick tap rack and I was back in business. The only other issue I have is that my gun sometimes does not want to lock open on an empty magazine. My magazines are numbered so I will have to pay closer attention to see which ones are acting up. Trust me I did not have time during the course to pay attention. We basically loaded and shot.

    We arrived in Memphis on Thursday late afternoon. First stop was RangeMaster. Julie and I met one of the staff instructors, Blake. He was very nice and explained what we were expected to do. First put your range gear in the air gun range so that nobody would mess with it. Then go to the main range to switch from carry the range ammo. RangeMaster insists that you carry your regular full power duty ammo when leaving the range. Memphis is rough! Mogadishu on the Mississippi. There is so much crime down there that one student had their truck broken into while parked in the RangeMaster parking lot. That takes balls to break into a vehicle at a shooting range. We were required to carry our guns on us at all times. That meant properly holstered and loaded. If Tom said it was time to shoot we were expected to grab our eyes and ears and be able to hit the range. Blake also warned that Tom would get aggravated if we took the time to load ammo out of the boxes. So I dumped all my boxed cartridges into an ammo can. After visiting the range to get a lay of the land we went to our hotel. Julie says Craig can not pick the hotel in the future. Honestly it was fine but Mrs. Vert is spoiled and I like to keep her that way. It is a burden having a trophy wife. We did venture out to get a late dinner and a full tank of gas. I would like to thank Craig for standing guard while I pumped gas. Did I mention Memphis has a high crime rate?

    Day 1: Started off with introductions. Several professional trainers. My first thought was that I was in over my head. But this was not a high speed, low drag, jump out of flaming helicopters type of course. The goal for the weekend was to work on and more importantly coach the fundamentals. Rangemaster has an excellent success rate for their students surviving violent confrontations. I think a lot of that success is because they keep it simple. Following the introductions we talked about the 4 rules of safety and shooting fundamentals. It is not a stance but a fighting platform. The two most important fundamentals are sight alignment and trigger control! Sound familiar? Tom showed us some neat techniques for making sure students were lining up the sights and pressing the trigger correctly. Shooting exercises focused on the fundamentals, coaching and diagnosing target groups. We were already expected to know how to shoot. But guess what? I had plenty to work on with my jerking the trigger and poor follow through. We did shoot the FBI qualification and a bullseye course for score. A person can't get good hits without marksmanship. This course is heavy in practical marksmanship. We also talked about developing presentations and were given our topics.

    Day 2: Back to the Range and more class time. The course was split between practical range exercises and lecture. On the range we were pretty much expected to already know how to present the gun from the holster. We were told to get our acts together! If your presentation was sloppy you better work on in your hotel room. We shot the FBI qualification again as well as RangeMasters exam. We also shot the casino drill. We talked about different platforms of handguns such as revolvers vs autos. Tom gave a presentation illustrating how how quickly a person can acquire their sights. Present the gun quickly but fast and accurate shots on the target. The highlight of my day was a pat on the back and ata boy from Tom.

    Day 3: Shooting test, 220 rounds! Draw quickly, aim quickly, shoot slowly. We also discussed use of force. After the written test Tom talked about crime statistics and some the philosophical differences between military, law enforcement and civilian training.

    This is the fantastic course. It heavily emphasizes coaching and marksmanship. Better yet there are instructors there coaching you on your coaching. I got to meet and shoot beside a lot of very talented people. With any luck I will be able to make it back down to Memphis for Tom's Tactical Conference.
     
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    JBishop

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    I'm jealous!
    I got to train with Tom in KY when he did a few classes for my military unit in 2002-3. Unfortunately I think the best information he had didn't necessarily fit into our SOP's, so we missed some gems. I have always been impressed by reading synopses of their student-involved shootings. It is an impressive success rate in a game with no second places.
    I did get down to the facility last year when in Memphis. You definitely want to have your gun handy, and maybe an antidepressant once you walk in the door. Would a few more lights and some new paint kill 'em?

    Glad to hear the class went well. I hope to make it to the Tactical Conference one of these days.
     

    Craigh

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    Thanks to Mike for starting this thread and Vert for adding his thoughts. It was a great class. I have my notes compiled and I'll add my thoughts later this weeked.

    Thanks,

    Craig
     

    rhino

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    Thanks for the reports, guys! I didn't even know Mr. Givens did this course. Looks like a pilgrimage to Memphis is in the cards for the future.
     

    Jackson

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    Great AARs. Thanks for posting. I have been thinking about a training year full of Instructor Development themed classes. Not because I am an instructor, but because learning how to teach people to shoot should surely make me a better shooter as well. The testing sounds pretty tough. I would have to brush up on my skills before I went.
     

    Craigh

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    Hi All,

    As Cedartop and Vert stated earlier, we had a great time at Rangemaster’s Instructor course. Before I launch my AAR, I’d like to tell a bit about my shooting experience to help put my comments in perspective, since I’m not a frequent poster.

    In chronological order; raised on a family farm (sole source of income) in East Central In. Spent some time in the USMC (expert rifleman) working on helos, worked as a diesel mechanic while going to Purdue (Mech Eng.), working for a major diesel engine manufacturer in Columbus (20+ yrs as a mechanical technician and engineer). I’ve been to Gunsite, taken classes from Jim Higginbotham, Bill Jeans and work with a local group of Gunsite grads on a regular basis. I shoot USPSA at our local club (South Central). I teach NRA Basic Pistol and PPITH (with Vert and G^2) and a series of basic handgun courses of my own design (well, heavily modeled after the Modern Technique and others), mainly working with new, new shooters at HHRP.

    I say all that to say that I feel reasonably comfortable working within the parameters of the 4-rules and have been shown how to shoot properly enough times that I should be able to perform on demand.

    I’ve been aware of Tom Givens for quite some time and attended Rangemaster’s Tactical Conference in 2012. That experience convinced me to take a class from him. Tom’s experience makes him unique in this business. He’s prior military, LEO, champion competitive shooter and a professional firearms instructor. He also has the intellect to analyze, draw conclusions and summarize large quantities of data so that his curriculum is based on successful self-defense shootings. As mentioned by Cedartop and Vert, his student’s record is quite impressive. He also studies the statistics from Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) so, his teaching is DATA-BASED, as a civilian, and thus very applicable to what I wish to study. I work with PhD engineers who can't interpret, summarize or present the conclusions as succinctly as Tom does. Or use statistics properly. I find his presentation style to be informative and highly entertaining. Again, I’ve heard and teach the 4-rules but, still took a page of notes during his safety lecture.

    The shooting drills were tough but, you don’t need to poses super-human skills to pass them. I shot from concealment, as did about half the class. Everyone in our class passed the course, which is not usual. Tom Stated that it’s not at all uncommon to have 3-5 students out of 20 not pass so, this class was squared away.

    As Vert said, out of 20 students, there were three shooting 1911’s. However, just about all the 10+ RM instructors were carrying 1911’s :). Tom carries a full sized Glock 40. I used my Les Baer PII, Milt Sparks 55 BN, and Ernie Hill mag carriers (Wilson 47d’s and ETM mags). Same stuff I use in USPSA and the same stuff I carry. Most everyone had Glocks and M&Ps but, I did see an HK .45 (female) and a Sig 226. The shooting consisted of drills at 3, 5, 7, 15 and 25 yards, with time limits. I was very comfortable to 7 yards, but struggled a bit at 15 and 25.

    This is an Instructors course so, the students were expected to know how to present the pistol, shoot and run their equipment. Tom runs a hot range and all handguns are expected to be loaded and remain in the holster until instructed otherwise.

    One of the more enjoyable components of taking classes away from home is meeting other students. I got to interact with a number of good folks at this class and really enjoyed getting to know Cedartop (especially our friendly Glock vs 1911 banter). It’s clear that Mike takes his training very seriously (and professional) but can still have fun. I hope our paths cross again.

    As to Mrs. Vert… She certainly did take excellent care of us, which allowed us to remain focused on preparing for the class. I know her help allowed us to perform well on the tests. She even bought souvenirs for my daughters, to keep me out of doghouse!!

    This is a well-designed and executed course that I’m glad I was able to attend. Again, I work with new shooters (by choice) and feel I'm now much better prepared to teach and help diagnose/correct their issues.

    Thanks,

    Craig
     

    GNRPowdeR

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    Having been a student of both CraigH and VERT, I'm always interested in their opinions... These statements have my attention. I'm even curious about taking more classes from them just to see how things have changed in their presentations / range time.

    Thank you, Cedartop, VERT and CraigH for doing this AAR... Very informative!
     

    VERT

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    Having been a student of both CraigH and VERT, I'm always interested in their opinions... These statements have my attention. I'm even curious about taking more classes from them just to see how things have changed in their presentations / range time.

    Thank you, Cedartop, VERT and CraigH for doing this AAR... Very informative!

    I am sure this experience will change a few things in our presentations. I have noticed that Craig and I are rubbing off on each other so to speak. Having spent a weekend with Tom Givens has reinforced some of my opinions and given me some new perspective as well.
     

    ar15_dude

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    Thanks for sharing. Craigh is already an excellent instructor, and as evidenced by this training, is committed to continuous improvement.
     

    VERT

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    Don't be stingy.....I want to see what you guys learned!!

    I just went through Craig's BHHM2 about an hour ago. He pulled all sorts of tricks and info out of the Tom Givens playbook. I bet some of it creeps into Personal Protection in the Home and Basic Pistol next month.
     

    HICKMAN

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    I just went through Craig's BHHM2 about an hour ago. He pulled all sorts of tricks and info out of the Tom Givens playbook. I bet some of it creeps into Personal Protection in the Home and Basic Pistol next month.

    Think a former co-worker of mine named Steven S. may be one of Craig's student's. I know he lives in that area.
     

    VERT

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    Damn, you boys gonna start charging double for courses now. :)

    Nope! Craig and I talked about that tonight. Our target audience will continue to be new shooters. As long as we have the support of good clubs such as Hoosier Hills, Sand Creek and South Central prices should remain reasonable.
     

    Craigh

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    I just went through Craig's BHHM2 about an hour ago. He pulled all sorts of tricks and info out of the Tom Givens playbook. I bet some of it creeps into Personal Protection in the Home and Basic Pistol next month.


    Hey Vert, it was good to see you at the range. Thanks for coming out. And yes, I did share some of my newly acquired information from Rangemaster. That's what I do... pull from the experiences I've had and work that information into my curriculum, while giving credit to those I've borrowed from. It was a fun class.

    Thanks,

    Craig
     
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