Lets point guns at each other!

[Gamez235]

"One of our instructors attended a course last weekend in Oklahoma. One of the drills entailed unloading your gun then pointing it at one of the class instructors and dry firing. This was to get you used to pointing your gun at a real person. Please notice the loaded mags still on the belt. I'm pretty sure this violates one or more of the four Golden Rules of gun safety. Our guy DID NOT participate in this portion of the class. What do you guys think?" - Central State Training's Facebook Page

 

[Turf Doctor]

I do not think this is a good idea. I think I would have to pass on this drill.
I remember while taking a class here locally, the trainer was telling us about an event like this taking place at different training facility. When one of the guys in the class went home and showed his spouse what he learned in class he did not empty the gun of ammo and shot her.

 

[jagee]

I'll pass.

 

[joe138]

There are way too many training accidents anyway, let alone promoting something like that. That training would be on my NFE list.

 

[Drail]

That is an lethal accident waiting to happen. There have been quite a few cases where this was done in Law Enforcement training and an officer ended up shot. Dummy guns are made for that purpose. Never use a live gun. No matter what any "Instructor" tells you. Whoever thought that this was good training is an idiot and if he continues to train this way someone IS going to get shot. Unbelievable.

 

[cosermann]

Seems to me there are several other less potentially dangerous ways to accomplish the same goal.

 

[turnandshoot4]

Did I miss where they said who's training this is?

 

[esrice]

Putting your sights on a real person and pulling the trigger is an important mindset drill.

But that is NOT how it should be done.

 

[turnandshoot4]

On their facebook page they say, "Do your research before you train with someone." But they won't even say who this was with. They said it was a bad class with dangerous drills, but won't say who it is?

What, they didn't get that "one nugget" everyone pays hundreds of dollars for in classes?

 

[Rookie]

Another great training idea, when you load your gun, look down the barrel to make sure there's a bullet.

 

[esrice]

Another great training idea, when you load your gun, look down the barrel to make sure there's a bullet.

Chamber check, right? Seems legit.

 

[Drail]

Years ago I was an NRA Instructor. Now I am seeing a LOT of "Instructors" that are "teaching" people some very bad concepts. Be very careful who you take instruction from. Always check to make sure that they have a brain in their skull. There is apparently no requirement to have one and "instruct".

 

[singlesix]

No way in the world would I do this drill. I've seen too many NDs at matches where the person "knew" he cleared the gun and on "hammer down" the gun went BANG.

 

[bwframe]

Some have made a lot of $$$ marketing such antics. Danger check...

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[HoughMade]

Pointing a gun at someone you do not intend to shoot is only acceptable if that person is holding a camera.

 

[printcraft]

Stupidity is more contagious than ebola.

 

[Que]

"One of our instructors attended a course last weekend in Oklahoma. One of the drills entailed unloading your gun then pointing it at one of the class instructors and dry firing. This was to get you used to pointing your gun at a real person. Please notice the loaded mags still on the belt. I'm pretty sure this violates one or more of the four Golden Rules of gun safety. Our guy DID NOT participate in this portion of the class. What do you guys think?" - Central State Training's Facebook Page

It looks like the instructor is pointing back, so I'm out. I would definitely play along as long as I'm pointing at him, but I see no need for him to reciprocate. To make it "real" he can pull out a knife or something.

 

[rhino]

I won't do it. I won't be present if someone else is doing it. If it's my class, no one is going to do it.

I'll continue to live my life without this critical mindset enhancing experience.

 

[indiucky]

I just came here to read Kirk's response...None yet...Will check back later...

 

[VUPDblue]

Nuclear facepalm. The fact that they still have (presumably) loaded mags in their belt carriers tells me all I need to know about the safety concerns of the staff hosting this type of shenanigan. I never trained with anyone who wanted me to point my actual firearm at another person and I don't intend to. That said, I have had to point a loaded firearm at another person and I can't say that I was not mentally prepared for that, without ever having to engage in an unsafe "training" drill.