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08-09-2012
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| Expert  Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana
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EDINBURGH RISK AND SECURITY MANAGEMENT The Edinburgh AAR, along with Yeager's action report, and "General Commnets on the Failings of Operation APOLLO" can be found here: http://www.defensereview.com/video-i...-on-biap-road/ The above are presented without comments or opinions.
__________________ Robert E. Aldridge, NRA Certified Instructor, website: iftnra.com Last edited by NIFT; 08-09-2012 at 11:41.. | |
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08-09-2012
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| Expert  Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Bend, IN
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   | Come on guys. We all know that cars stop all manner of bullets and projectiles. He must have been a weenie to not trust all that thick hardened steel they put on cars nowadays.
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08-09-2012
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| "Death before Dishonor"   Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Evansville
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| Look at all of runaway Yeager's supporters coming out. Look I understand. You either really fancy the cut of his jib or you spent money on some of his stuff. Point is. Don't try to put yourself out as an authority on the subject when you panic, can't get your car out of neutral, bail out, and run away leaving your team. There is at least one person who knows the man on this board and knew him "over there" (not me) and if he wants to PM you the info that is up to him. I for one think people like that should be hiding in the shadows and not standing out there trying to act like he is a tough guy selling his BS. How does that pertain to him interviewing another instructor? That's simple, he shouldn't be interviewing another instructor as some kind of authority himself. Now if he wants to give a lesson on how he has learned not to put a manual transmission car in neutral and then forget how to get it in gear while under fire and then how not to run away leaving one's team mates that is another matter. Oh and I don't like cowards. Period... and yes I've been in more than a few "dangerous situations" (most during my time as an leo) and did not run away.
__________________ "You see, none of us chose our end really. A king may move a man, a father may claim a son. But remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God you cannot say "but I was told by others to do thus" or that "virtue was not convinient at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that." "Live with Honor, and let not your death be born by the pallbearers of, disgrace, cruelty, weakness and fear." |
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08-09-2012
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| "Death before Dishonor" Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Evansville
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Based on the report it looks like everyone but Yeager was either actively engaging the enemy, providing support, moving wounded, and giving medical attention. The guy next to you is unloading a hundred rounds from his saw has a stoppage, switches to his m4 and continues to fire at a white SUV and you fire 15 rounds (assuming 30 round mag) and can't identify where fire is coming from. Not to mention that other team members at another vehicle have also identified fire coming from the same white SUV. I wonder if he was even looking or he just held the m4 over his head fired about 15 rounds then booked for the median where you can't see anything. "James Yeager was in a location at the median where he could not engage enemy forces as he did not have a line of fire from his location" which also conveniently means that the enemy did not have a line of fire on his location. Hey not knocking his "save your own ass" tactics, they do work after all. He should teach that. Of course the report could be wrong (which would also mean the reports of his surviving team members, who just love him, are lies as well).
__________________ "You see, none of us chose our end really. A king may move a man, a father may claim a son. But remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God you cannot say "but I was told by others to do thus" or that "virtue was not convinient at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that." "Live with Honor, and let not your death be born by the pallbearers of, disgrace, cruelty, weakness and fear." Last edited by thebishopp; 08-09-2012 at 15:10.. | |
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08-09-2012
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__________________ I sell guns and gun accessories! I will not bury my guns, I will not loose them in a boating accident, my guns will be used. 21ST Century Firearms INC. 827 N Main ST Bluffton IN 46714 260-824-5530 www.21stcenturyfirearms.com Monday - Friday, 10:00 to 6:00, Saturday 9:00 to 4:00. 01FFL and SOT. NRA Life Member | |
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08-09-2012
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| "Death before Dishonor" Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Evansville
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edit... oh wait, was I supposed to puff out my chest and try to look tough by trying to "prove" how tough I am? LOL.
__________________ "You see, none of us chose our end really. A king may move a man, a father may claim a son. But remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God you cannot say "but I was told by others to do thus" or that "virtue was not convinient at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that." "Live with Honor, and let not your death be born by the pallbearers of, disgrace, cruelty, weakness and fear." Last edited by thebishopp; 08-09-2012 at 15:24.. | |
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08-09-2012
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| Grandmaster  Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fiddler's Green
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What do I win?! 
__________________ The reason I am Peaceful, is because I like Violence and Mayhem a little to much... Last edited by jeremy; 08-09-2012 at 16:42.. | |
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