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Old 03-26-2008   #11 (permalink)
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Ski this is off-topic but do you remember what key words you were searching for when you found this site. Were you using google? Thanks!
Fenway, I was using Google and I searched "indiana firearms training". This site was several pages in, if I remember correctly. But, I knew as soon as I saw the link that I had found a new home.

I assume you were looking for info to make a site a little more visible. I think that highlighting the training aspects discussed here would be a huge benefit.

I have been searching around a bit lately and ran acroos the website for Precision Cartridge. They are based in Hobart, where I live and I met the owner a loooong time ago. His site seemed to be friendly to this type of forum you have going on here. You might want to contact him about adding INGO to his links. He sells ammo to everyone, it seems. Anyway, his site is Precision Cartridge, Inc. - Ammunition in 380, 9mm, 38, 357 Mag., 357 Sig., 10mm, 40 S&W, 41, 44, 45.

I am going to tell some of my buddies about this site. I saw from the registration info that most of the users have signed up in the last couple months, so I hope it continues to grow.

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Has anyone been to either course (Gunsite or Awerbuck) that could offer insight?
The only Gunsite class I've gone to there is the Gunsite 123 (Carbine). But I'm taking the Gunsite 150 (Pistol) in May.
Sherrif Ken Campbell teaches the Gunsite classes (and teaches at the real Gunsite), and also teaches an "Introduction to Defensive Pistol" that I've taken also.

I've had a few of Louis Awerbuck's classes and am taking his shotgun class in August.

Both guys know a lot of stuff, and are excellent at imparting it to students. They have slightly different ways of doing it, but they are more alike than it may first appear. Both get it done, and have diagnostic skills you wouldn't believe. It's like they can glance at you and tell what you are doing wrong.

I always use this example about Louis Awerbuck:
We were doing a pistol drill of some kind, it doesn't matter what. He gave the command to shoot, and within the couple of seconds, I heard "Bill, bring you elbow straight back. Tom, you took that safety off a little early. Fred, you are squeezing with your bottom fingers again."
By now, the first shots ring out.
The guy has not only seen these things happen all across the firing line, but analyzed them, and barked out corrections before the first shots let go. I couldn't SEE them that fast if I was watching just one guy right in front of me, let alone process and give corrections. The guy is spooky.

And if Awerbuck is a 10 on that scale, Sheriff Campbell is a 9 at least.

You notice that I keep going back. You will also notice that when others respond to your question, they will be multiple class attendees also. If people go back, and go back that much, it must be good.
I don't even have a job, but scrape up the money each year.

The 3-day Gunsite 150 runs $469 and the 5-day 250 in AZ is $1386. You are getting the same level of instruction, but don't get to play in the shoothouses. I can attend a Gunsite class and two Awerbuck classes in my own backyard (nine days of training) for the cost of one AZ Gunsite class. That's a pretty good deal.
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Thanks for the info. This site is brand new so it will take us to move up the ranks of google. We are using an SEO script that has done great on some other sites I own. We should be moving up to pg 1 shortly I hope!

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Fenway, I was using Google and I searched "indiana firearms training". This site was several pages in, if I remember correctly. But, I knew as soon as I saw the link that I had found a new home.

I assume you were looking for info to make a site a little more visible. I think that highlighting the training aspects discussed here would be a huge benefit.

I have been searching around a bit lately and ran acroos the website for Precision Cartridge. They are based in Hobart, where I live and I met the owner a loooong time ago. His site seemed to be friendly to this type of forum you have going on here. You might want to contact him about adding INGO to his links. He sells ammo to everyone, it seems. Anyway, his site is Precision Cartridge, Inc. - Ammunition in 380, 9mm, 38, 357 Mag., 357 Sig., 10mm, 40 S&W, 41, 44, 45.

I am going to tell some of my buddies about this site. I saw from the registration info that most of the users have signed up in the last couple months, so I hope it continues to grow.

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Barry - thanks for the input. Good point about repeat attendees. I will try for both.

Fen - most of what you said was over my moderately technotarded head, but I hope your mission is a success. BTW, what other sites do you own?

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"Due to the imposition of Daylight Savings Time, we will not have a night shoot."

Well, that blows.

I HATE DST.
All they'd have to do is move the class to springtime or later in the fall, and it wouldn't be (as much of) an issue.

Having done some low-light training, I agree that there is no substitute for it - learning the skills in the daytime is only of limited value without being able to put them into practice in an actual low-light environment.

Louis is on my short list of trainers to train with, and BCSO hosting him in my backyard every year removes the obstacle/excuse of travel time/expense. I'll have to make room on the schedule (and in the budget!) for one of his classes next year.
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Louis was referred to me several years ago, and I have been following the more guns track up until now. I have the application for the Tactical Handgun l on my desk, and actually filled it out this morning, before this post appeared. How coincedental??? !! I intend to be in the Tac Handgun l class in August. Now that I've said it, I need to write the check and send in my deposit.
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All they'd have to do is move the class to springtime or later in the fall, and it wouldn't be (as much of) an issue.
That's a great idea, but virtually impossible with the YFA classes. August is the month he is in Indiana, and he is in Indiana the month of August. It's been that way for years, and I'll be very suprised if it ever changes. He'd have to change the rest of his annual schedule to accommodate it.
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I got my deposit in last week for the Shotgun 1 class. Now to start stocking up on ammo....
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Steve- See you there.
Be prepared for stocking up that ammo, since shotgun shells eat up the room! I filled two of those Sterlite plastic storage bins (about 70 liters of space), but I always bring more ammo than called for.

Yes, for Louis to change the schedule would throw everything off. For one thing, he has a certain route he takes around the country and follows it reasonably close each year. Like Rhino said- To change a the date to fit sunset here would throw it off somewhere else.
And, I don't think he likes cold weather and schedules accordingly to try to avoid it. That eliminates spring and fall here as there is a risk of a cold snap. That's all just a theory though.

We DID have a night shoot in the Gunsite 150 last weekend, even though it didn't get dark until almost 9:30. I didn't think there would be one in that class, so maybe there is a tiny chance yet.
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I'll be in Lebanon for the pistol class on August 15 to 17th.

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