You feel a cold, steel object pressed against your temple...

Rlee · 06-22-2009

As titled, a friend/member and I were talking about how we would react if we were sitting a stop light when approached by a person with a gun. But to take this further we are both car guys and VALUE are possessions very highly. Another words, we hate thieves and believe they deserve nothing but another breathing hole between there eyes.

We both set the scenarios to a basic car guys lifestyle. Say you own a car/truck whatever and have invested 5-10yrs into this car and 15k or more into it and have had more than one and not less than a million long nights laying in bed thinking of how you could change this or that.

It comes down to a calm night sitting at a stop light when you are approached by someone who puts a gun to your head and demands the vehicle or else. What's your reaction?

Variables we discussed.

1) You don't have a gun with you.

2) You are with your significant other.

3) You are by yourself.

4) You are armed with your handgun and have it on your side or within reach.

Keep in mind, you are literally being held at gun point. Barrel is resting against temple. Area you are in doesn't matter as you are the focal point and have only seconds to react, so let's hear it.

RelicHound · 06-22-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rlee

As titled, a friend/member and I were talking about how we would react if we were sitting a stop light when approached by a person with a gun. But to take this further we are both car guys and VALUE are possessions very highly. Another words, we hate thieves and believe they deserve nothing but another breathing hole between there eyes.

We both set the scenarios to a basic car guys lifestyle. Say you own a car/truck whatever and have invested 5-10yrs into this car and 15k or more into it and have had more than one and not less than a million long nights laying in bed thinking of how you could change this or that.

It comes down to a calm night sitting at a stop light when you are approached by someone who puts a gun to your head and demands the vehicle or else. What's your reaction?

Variables we discussed.

1) You don't have a gun with you. I drive off

2) You are with your significant other. I drive off

3) You are by yourself.I drive off

4) You are armed with your handgun and have it on your side or within reach.
I get out and let him have it,shoot the back tire out then run for cover,call the police then once all info is givin and what not go change my flat tire and drive off....on second hand that seems like alot of work,Ill just drive on this one too

Keep in mind, you are literally being held at gun point. Barrel is resting against temple. Area you are in doesn't matter as you are the focal point and have only seconds to react, so let's hear it.

Rlee · 06-22-2009

Wow, he said he would do the same.

I believe that if in fact the perp had a gun and it was ready to fire, which I would assume that every gun is. Then I would get out of the car and open fire on him if I had my firearm if I didn't have it I would still get out I believe to improve my chance of surviving the scenario.

Jay · 06-22-2009

Situational awareness can keep you out of most situations like this. Much better to avoid, than try and firure out how to extricate.........

whiskeytangofoxtrot · 06-22-2009

Situational awareness indeed. I usually look around when I see that I am going to be sitting at a stop light. I most always leave enough room in front of my truck for any type of issue that may happen to where I need to drive off in a hurry. I do the same when stopped by a train, who knows when the damn thing will jump off the track?, and with my luck, I'm not taking any chances.

If something like that did happen to where I was powerless, I'd give the car up. I'd rather walk away not shot, than be so defiant with pride, and end up shot up by some punk in the car.

I can replace a car, I only have one life, and really don't want to chance it over something that is replaceable.

To me it comes down to choosing your battles, and in this type of situation they can have it.

Disposable Heart · 06-23-2009

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Originally Posted by Jay

Situational awareness can keep you out of most situations like this. Much better to avoid, than try and firure out how to extricate.........

My exact thing. How to get out of that situation? Never get into it.

Best thing in my mind would be get out, let them have the car, then put a gun to their head, but YOU pull the trigger (something they may not do as they dont want to escalate their sentence). Screw the years invested crap, my life is worth more than some friggin car. Let em have the damned thing.

clt46910 · 06-22-2009

Stomp the accelerator

RelicHound · 06-22-2009

my post sounded like I was being a smart *** but driving off is your best bet. if you try to get out whos to say he wont shoot you? by stomping on the gas you may just fluster him enough that by the time he decides to shoot at you youll be far enough away he will likely not hit you...your car might catch a slug or 2. chances are he wont fire anyway so he doesnt draw anymore attention to himself than he already has. when your stopped at a light you should always be aware of whats going on around you and should never let anyone get close enough to you do put a gun to your head...but again things happen quick,but being aware keeps you one step above the average "victim"
I have always thought it was kinda dumb to carry your gun on your side while driving...try this, put your gun in your normal position on your waist,go get in your car and put your seat belt on and try to draw your weapon..doesnt work so well. I keep mine within reach like my cup holder,which works well as my durango has large deep cup holders,a holster bolted to your dash or arm rest/console may be a good idea as well.

JNG · 06-22-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by RelicHound

my post sounded like I was being a smart *** but driving off is your best bet. if you try to get out whos to say he wont shoot you? by stomping on the gas you may just fluster him enough that by the time he decides to shoot at you youll be far enough away he will likely not hit you...your car might catch a slug or 2. chances are he wont fire anyway so he doesnt draw anymore attention to himself than he already has.

You'd bet your life on that?

Vigilant · 06-22-2009

As stated before, situational awareness! First off, my cars have AC, so the windows would be up, so no gun to temple. I ALWAYS scan my mirrors and to each side and somewhat to the rear while coming to a stop, I ALWAYS leave enough room for escape between me an the next vehicle, and IF as I am coming to a stop there are pedestrians near the stop point, my pistol goes between my legs as I stop so it is already unholstered if they approach my vehicle(this is assuming I can't just NOT stop and keep going). Maybe I'm paranoid, but that's my problem.

06-22-2009	#1 (permalink)
Rlee Marksman Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Castle, IN Posts: 396	You feel a cold, steel object pressed against your temple... As titled, a friend/member and I were talking about how we would react if we were sitting a stop light when approached by a person with a gun. But to take this further we are both car guys and VALUE are possessions very highly. Another words, we hate thieves and believe they deserve nothing but another breathing hole between there eyes. We both set the scenarios to a basic car guys lifestyle. Say you own a car/truck whatever and have invested 5-10yrs into this car and 15k or more into it and have had more than one and not less than a million long nights laying in bed thinking of how you could change this or that. It comes down to a calm night sitting at a stop light when you are approached by someone who puts a gun to your head and demands the vehicle or else. What's your reaction? Variables we discussed. 1) You don't have a gun with you. 2) You are with your significant other. 3) You are by yourself. 4) You are armed with your handgun and have it on your side or within reach. Keep in mind, you are literally being held at gun point. Barrel is resting against temple. Area you are in doesn't matter as you are the focal point and have only seconds to react, so let's hear it.

06-22-2009	#4 (permalink)
Jay ...gotta watch us old guys... Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Near Marion, IN Posts: 1,499	Situational awareness can keep you out of most situations like this. Much better to avoid, than try and firure out how to extricate......... __________________ Freedom has a flavor the protected can never taste ... USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '66, - May 68 Only when our arms are sufficient, without doubt, can we be certain, without doubt, that they will never be employed............. John F. Kennedy

06-22-2009	#5 (permalink)
whiskeytangofoxtrot Scruffy looking hillbilly Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Deadman's Hollow, Vermillion County Posts: 1,224	Situational awareness indeed. I usually look around when I see that I am going to be sitting at a stop light. I most always leave enough room in front of my truck for any type of issue that may happen to where I need to drive off in a hurry. I do the same when stopped by a train, who knows when the damn thing will jump off the track?, and with my luck, I'm not taking any chances. If something like that did happen to where I was powerless, I'd give the car up. I'd rather walk away not shot, than be so defiant with pride, and end up shot up by some punk in the car. I can replace a car, I only have one life, and really don't want to chance it over something that is replaceable. To me it comes down to choosing your battles, and in this type of situation they can have it. __________________ *"These are the times that try men's souls." - The American Crisis, Thomas Paine* Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee

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06-22-2009	#3 (permalink)
Rlee Marksman Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Castle, IN Posts: 396	Wow, he said he would do the same. I believe that if in fact the perp had a gun and it was ready to fire, which I would assume that every gun is. Then I would get out of the car and open fire on him if I had my firearm if I didn't have it I would still get out I believe to improve my chance of surviving the scenario.

06-22-2009	#7 (permalink)
clt46910 Sharpshooter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Akron Indiana Posts: 853	Stomp the accelerator

06-22-2009	#8 (permalink)
RelicHound Sharpshooter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SW IN Posts: 951	my post sounded like I was being a smart *** but driving off is your best bet. if you try to get out whos to say he wont shoot you? by stomping on the gas you may just fluster him enough that by the time he decides to shoot at you youll be far enough away he will likely not hit you...your car might catch a slug or 2. chances are he wont fire anyway so he doesnt draw anymore attention to himself than he already has. when your stopped at a light you should always be aware of whats going on around you and should never let anyone get close enough to you do put a gun to your head...but again things happen quick,but being aware keeps you one step above the average "victim" I have always thought it was kinda dumb to carry your gun on your side while driving...try this, put your gun in your normal position on your waist,go get in your car and put your seat belt on and try to draw your weapon..doesnt work so well. I keep mine within reach like my cup holder,which works well as my durango has large deep cup holders,a holster bolted to your dash or arm rest/console may be a good idea as well.

06-22-2009	#10 (permalink)
Vigilant Marksman Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Plainfield Posts: 478	As stated before, situational awareness! First off, my cars have AC, so the windows would be up, so no gun to temple. I ALWAYS scan my mirrors and to each side and somewhat to the rear while coming to a stop, I ALWAYS leave enough room for escape between me an the next vehicle, and IF as I am coming to a stop there are pedestrians near the stop point, my pistol goes between my legs as I stop so it is already unholstered if they approach my vehicle(this is assuming I can't just NOT stop and keep going). Maybe I'm paranoid, but that's my problem.