Fighting Without a Firearm Training in Central IN

[rhino]

The most important thing in this realm is to find a good instructor. In my opinion, the quality of the instructor, including their teaching ability and their communication skills, is far more important than the specific discipline they practice.

Given that, if you're looking for practical applications, look for a good instructor that teaches one of the Filipino systems (Arnis, Kali, Escrima, whatever). You'll start learning practical, applicable skills right away. Almost all of the techniques are adaptable to hands/sticks/blades.

[abnk]

Originally Posted by epsylum

Also keep in mind that even hand to hand there are different levels of fighting. What I mean is, krav maga is a good self defense system, but some of it is pretty effing hardcore meant only for life or death situations. You wouldn't necessarily want to gouge out someone's eyes because they took a swing at you in a bar. They are all tools in the tool belt and it is a good idea to get as many tools as possible to cover the most situations as possible.

epsylum,

I am married and have three kids. I no longer have the luxury of getting in brawls or engaging in any other activities that may result in civil suits. If I ever have to fight hand-to-hand, it won't be to save my ego or pride; it will be because I won't have time to draw my firearm.

[epsylum]

Originally Posted by abnk

epsylum,

I am married and have three kids. I no longer have the luxury of getting in brawls or engaging in any other activities that may result in civil suits. If I ever have to fight hand-to-hand, it won't be to save my ego or pride; it will be because I won't have time to draw my firearm.

Even still, not all self defense situations require lethal force. One good reason to know hand to hand self defense techniques is because if you draw your firearm, you better be able to show that you were in fear of your life. This usually means the presence of weapons like a knife or a gun otherwise it won't look to good in court.

[hunter480]

Originally Posted by epsylum

Even still, not all self defense situations require lethal force. One good reason to know hand to hand self defense techniques is because if you draw your firearm, you better be able to show that you were in fear of your life. This usually means the presence of weapons like a knife or a gun otherwise it won't look to good in court.

What about a situation such as mine? I`m 6"4'', 230 lbs, LOOK like I`m in good shape/health, even at 51 years of age. But, I have knee problems, gout in my ankles, so, I`m not a young, buff, kick boxer. Even IF I appear to be able to engage in a hard physical brawl, I`m likely not going to last long-at what point do I have the legal/common sense option that I need to drawl my weapon-cause I`m not going to go 12 rounds?

[abnk]

By mentioning the firearm I insinuated that the situation would have to be one where I am in fear of life or limb. Sorry if I was vague.

[abnk]

Originally Posted by spasmo

I haven't looked at the place on 96th street but here's their website: KRAV MAGA INDIANAPOLIS

My sensei doesn't teach it anymore in a classroom setting. He does do one on one training with people though.

Thanks for the link. Too bad they have nothing about the instructors on the website.

[epsylum]

Originally Posted by hunter480

What about a situation such as mine? I`m 6"4'', 230 lbs, LOOK like I`m in good shape/health, even at 51 years of age. But, I have knee problems, gout in my ankles, so, I`m not a young, buff, kick boxer. Even IF I appear to be able to engage in a hard physical brawl, I`m likely not going to last long-at what point do I have the legal/common sense option that I need to drawl my weapon-cause I`m not going to go 12 rounds?

You don't need to go toe to toe with them, there are several simple and effective techniques that could stop the attacker that you could learn. Aikido has quite a few of them. It's basis is matching or redirecting an opponents momentum and using it against them. Watching someone well trained in aikido can be a thing of beauty as they barely move, yet their opponents are flying everywhere. I have learned a very limited number of aikido moves, but those that I have learned I can tell can be very effective if used properly.

[spasmo]

yeah, anyone trained properly in any Martial Art should be able to take down an attacker without having to go into an all out fist fighting brawl. Sometimes tunnel vision occurs and when that happens, it's bad. Someone properly trained shouldn't even get hit.

I know how I am in a controlled environment. I've only been in a fight as an adult once and that was pre-karate. That was pre marriage even. I don't know how I would react now knowing what I do know but I hope I would do the right thing.

[spasmo]

Originally Posted by hunter480

What about a situation such as mine? I`m 6"4'', 230 lbs, LOOK like I`m in good shape/health, even at 51 years of age. But, I have knee problems, gout in my ankles, so, I`m not a young, buff, kick boxer. Even IF I appear to be able to engage in a hard physical brawl, I`m likely not going to last long-at what point do I have the legal/common sense option that I need to drawl my weapon-cause I`m not going to go 12 rounds?

You could easily take karate classes. My brother-in-law is 52 I believe and he started 3 years ago. (it was a birthday present from us) He's tall but probably not 230lbs, maybe 200 but I don't know.

[Disposable Heart]

I learned ka-fighting:
Ka-nife
ka-chair
ka-gun

Just like gun training with drawing and movement, unarmed or impromptu fighting must be almost second nature. You have to do it a few times, and not in a controlled environment, to truely understand it. I have been in a few scuffles at bars (drunken morons, the same buff, kick boxer wanna-be types that drink too much and watch too much ultimate fighting). Most "fights" one will ever get into is with drunk people as stupidity surrounds alcohol. The basic Army hand to hand will get you through most of the crap you will see out there. Very simple, easy to enact and effective as hell. A sharp fist punch to the eyes or a side foot kick to the knee will drop a guy down quick, or take him out of a hand to hand fight. Its worked for me. Im a little squirt, so I have to know this stuff works!

In all seriousness, dirty tricks will get you through alot too. May seem down and dirty, but gouging out someone's eyes works wonders. Jerkface cant see, drunk, first instinct is to run, blindly runs into wall, knocking himself out. Ive seen that once (I wasnt fighting, thank god, guy was huge) at a bar in Plainfield. Made a real mess, but worked!

I wonder if John is on these boards (Guys at Eagle Creek will know what I mean). My thought is to have a back up, then a back up back up. To quote Captain Jack Sparrow, "He who runs away, lives to run away again!"