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OODA Loop & Combat Mindset

First off I'd like to thank Tom Perroni from PTTA for allowing me to re-post this information. I can take no credit what so ever for this information, outside of finding it, and bringing it here for you.

Now, on to the good stuff. This is long, and 100% worth reading.
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OODA Loop & Combat Mindset

By Tom Perroni

The OODA Loop model was developed by Col. John Boyd, USAF (Ret). When Colonel John Boyd first introduced the OODA (Observe-Orient-Decide-Act) loop concept during the Korean War, he was referring to the ability possessed by fighter pilots that allowed them to succeed in combat. It is now used by many other Combat oriented organizations.

I believe that in order to use the OODA Loop it must be used in conjunction with the Combat Mindset for it to be effective in a Gunfight.

What is Combat Mindset? For the fighter, mindset is the conscious or subconscious willingness to commit harm (lethal or non-lethal) against another. When engaging in combat, mindset, more often than not, will be the determining factor as to your success or failure, regardless of technical proficiency. Anybody can train in a martial skill, but few have the mind and will to use their skills for killing or serious injury. Mindset's partner is 'mental trigger,' and this trigger is the defining moment that forces you to engage your opponent with the goal of injury or death.

So how do you train in Mindset? Here is how we begin the Mindset portion of our training. Keeping in mind that Mindset is just one of the 3 main principals taught at Perroni’s Tactical Training Academy. Mindset, Skills Training and Tactics. Here is how we teach Mindset:

Since 9/11 everyone is familiar with the “Color Code” used by the government (Dept. of Homeland Security) to indicate the terrorist threat level. However I was taught that the originator of the “Color Code” was Jeff Cooper. Upon it’s inception it had absolutely nothing to do with tactical situations or alertness levels. It had everything to do with the state of mind of the sheepdog. As it was taught to me by an instructor who got it straight form Mr. Cooper, it relates to the degree of danger you are willing to do something about and which allows you move from one level of mindset to another to enable you to properly handle any given situation as it progresses. In this ‘Color Code” we have 4 colors that represent 4 mental states. The colors are White, Yellow, Orange, and Red. I have listed them with a definition of each:


White - Relaxed, unaware, and unprepared. If attacked in this state the only thing that may save you is the inadequacy and ineptitude of your attacker. When confronted by something nasty your reaction will probably be, 'Oh my God! This can't be happening to me.' (Sheep)

Yellow - Relaxed alertness. No specific threat situation. Your mindset is that 'today could be the day I may have to defend myself.' There is no specific threat but you are aware that the world is an unfriendly place and that you are prepared to do something if necessary. You use your eyes and ears, and your carriage says 'I am alert.' You don't have to be armed in this state but if you are armed you must be in yellow. When confronted by something nasty your reaction will probably be, 'I thought this might happen some day.' You can live in this state indefinitely.

Orange - Specific alert. Something not quite right has gotten your attention and you shift your primary focus to that thing. Something is 'wrong' with a person or object. Something may happen. Your mindset is that 'I may have to shoot that person.' Your pistol is usually holstered in this state. You can maintain this state for several hours with ease, or a day or so with effort.

Red - Fight trigger. This is your mental trigger. 'If that person does 'x' I will shoot them.' Your pistol may, but not necessarily, be in your hand.

Black – complete mental shutdown.

I teach my students to always be in condition Yellow! And once you move to condition Orange this is when I believe the OODA Loop occurs. Please also note that one of the most frequently asked questions in my training class is: Should I shoot with one eye open or two eyes open?

This is where I tell my students that in a gunfight you will not have the ability to shut off one eye, because your brain is in Observation mode and you need to be able to take in any and all information. Using your dominate eye will be for precision or long range accurate shots only. You will most likely be shooting from the hip or “Zippering” your shots in this situation.

But before any of this happens in a split second you will have gone through the first of literally hundreds of OODA Loops in any given confrontation. The reason they are called loops is because you will continue to take in information and make decisions based on that info throughout the confrontation.

Experimenting with OODA Loops is a form of training, meaning; test your actions based on your decisions to see their outcome. Bad decisions do not negate or interrupt your opponents OODA Loop they actually enhance your opponents OODA Loop. Three basic outcomes in interrupting or disrupting your opponents OODA Loop are; they’ll either become disoriented in attempting to make a decision, they’ll make a bad decision or they will make a satisfactory decision only too late. Good training that makes you think “outside of the box”, adding more and more situational awareness is the key to really utilizing Boyd’s Loop.

OODA Loop defined:

Observation - Scan the environment and gather information from it.

Orientation - Use the information to form a mental image of the circumstances. That is, synthesize the data into information. As more information is received, you 'deconstruct' old images and then 'create' new images. Note that different people require different levels of details to perceive an event. Often, we imply that the reason people cannot make good decisions, is that people are bad decisions makers -- sort of like saying that the reason some people cannot drive is that they are bad drivers. However, the real reason most people make bad decisions is that they often fail to place the information that we do have into its proper context. This is where 'Orientation' comes in. Orientation emphasizes the context in which events occur, so that we may facilitate our decisions and actions. That it, orientation helps to turn information into knowledge. And knowledge, not information, is the real predictor of making good decisions.

Decision - Consider options and select a subsequent course of action.

Action - Carry out the conceived decision. Once the result of the action is observed, you start over. Note that in combat (or competing against the competition), you want to cycle through the four steps faster and better than the enemy, hence, it is a loop.

This is the component that enables us to make the ‘Fight or Flight” decision. Will I stand and fight or will I tactically re-locate.

Here is a few Tactical Guidelines I teach my students:
You will not rise to the occasion……. you will default to the level of training you have mastered.
Maximize you distance from danger.
Observe hands.
Shoot until the problem is solved.
Scan before re-holstering.
Do NOT give up if hit with a handgun round most people survive being hit with a handgun round.
'Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option'.
When you’re doing OODA “loops” correctly; accuracy and speed improve together; they don’t trade off.

Chris Pick Adjunct Instructor for Perroni’s Tactical Training Academy also contributed to this article.

Some of the information in this article came from John Boyd, Donald Clark, and anonymous sources on the internet.
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your posts on the ooda loop should help all understand the process. once we have an understanding, we can attempt to figure out how to "get inside" our adversaries loop and disrupt it. there in lies the key to successfully negotiating a positive outcome to a "situation".
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I think all these articles on the OODA loop that Lars (and now Shay) are posting for us really drive home the importance of not just getting quality training, but also the importance of force-on-force training.

Lars and I were discussing these articles on the way home from work, as well as FoF training, and I made the comment that I wasn't ready for that. Not just from a skill level (I'll own up to the fact that I don't spend as much time practicing as I should), but from a mindset level, too. I'm getting there. To use this article as a reference, I can say with confidence that this time last year I was pretty much in condition white all the time. I'd like to say I'm always in yellow now, but I know I have my moments when I slip back into my sheep stage.

Anyway.. my point. You can be great at drawing your gun. You can be great at hammering nails with your 9mm at 50 feet. How do you react to the stress of an attacker at 6 feet?
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and I made the comment that I wasn't ready for that. Not just from a skill level (I'll own up to the fact that I don't spend as much time practicing as I should), but from a mindset level, too. I'm getting there.
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we are all ready. the ooda loop is not an invention, it is an observation of normal, instinctive behavior. it has merely been codified so we can study and learn to work within that behavior. if we train to defend ourselves in a manner consistent with our instinctive behavior, no truly new behavior is needed, just honed to utilize the tools we have available today. we also study the ooda loop in order to develop tools and technique to disrupt the loop of our opponent allowing us to prevail.
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I think someone has to believe they are ready before they are to engage in any well-conceived force-on-force scenarios. I'm not talking about any kind of weapons-related skills, or any kind of understanding of OODA loops or decision making. I'm talking about being emotionally ready to invest themselves (at least during the scenarios) fully into the scenario. That includes both being able to handle what happens as well as being willing to full invest themselves into their role(s).

I've seen people break down in tears after scenarios. That's not a sign that someone wasn't ready, but it's indicative of the amount of stress that is induced. Some people (and at risk of being sexist, mostly women) will need some kind of emotional release either during or after such experiences, especially when they are doing it for the first time and are not prepared for the effects of the induced stresses.

If someone thinks they are not ready, then they might not be. I would, however, suggest that such a declaration should be an informed decision based on exactly what is planned for a given scenario. In some cases, someone may very well be ready, but not believe so because they don't really understand what is going to happen (or might happen). Once much of that is explained, the anxiety of the unknown is lessened.

Some people are ready for force-on-force before they ever learn anything about "real" weapons. Some need the innoculation of the weapons instruction and practice to get them to a point where they can accept the kind of decisions they need to make. Some will never be ready, but those are also probably the kind of people who will not prevail in a life-threatening encounter unless and until they are able to make some changes in their emotional and psychological status.
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though rhino makes a great point, and i defer to his experience in this regard, i stand by my statement that we are all ready. it is a matter of degree perhaps, but we have all experience some degree of force on force since we began to socialize. think back to your childhood. think back to your school days. not perhaps force on force as stated here, but we all have the "basic" training. call it life if you will. jmho.
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That's probably a lot more true for when dodgeball was allowed, kids picked their own teams, and called their own fouls. Things aren't like that anymore, and the number of people who have been sheltered (including by their own choice) from any kind of confrontational/adversarial activity is a lot higher and growing. There have always been people who do not react well to those things.

Those are the people who need different handling to guide them to a place when they will gain benefit from force-on-force scenarios. Sure, it's not going to kill anyone, but I can find a number of people that if we put them through an intense scenario one time, they will never, ever do it (or go shooting) again and will probably make them even less able to effectively defend themselves.

Again, being "ready" for this kind of thing has little (if anything) to do with weapon skills. You can't force people through their personal emotional and psychological adjustment. You can guide and accomodate and suggest and most will probably get to where they need to be eventually. Identifying them isn't tough. When those people self-identify, it's called a "clue."
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Again, being "ready" for this kind of thing has little (if anything) to do with weapon skills. You can't force people through their personal emotional and psychological adjustment. You can guide and accomodate and suggest and most will probably get to where they need to be eventually. Identifying them isn't tough. When those people self-identify, it's called a "clue."


Even though I can't shoot anywhere close to a dime-sized group yet, that wouldn't stop me from taking an FoF class. It's the fact that my body does not react well to stressful situations (not just from the emotional release [crying] aspect, but I have some medical considerations as well). Until I can feel confident that I can handle the kind of stress I expect from reading class descriptions and from experiences shared with me by other people without worrying about my medical issues, I am not ready. (Consider yourself clued.)

I've made huge strides in being able to handle stressful situations (emotionally and physically) just in the last few months, and I'm continuing to build on that progress. Shay made a comment .. somewhere .. that regular physical activity induced stress will help that building process, and I think it has merit, so Lars and I are looking into that.
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