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haldir · 06-20-2008

Sorry, I don't like the idea of a secret gun in the house. So friends bring their kids over and you are out of the house. No one knows they need to worry about a pistol under your mattress or in the back of your closet, I don't think I need to draw much of a picture there. I never kept mine secret from my little ones. They knew where they were, knew they were loaded and never touched them. I took them out shooting when they were little and they were scared to death of them.

Annie Oakley · 06-20-2008

I think "his house, his rules" would be the only way to go. I would be more interested in seeing what his thinking is in depth. Some people seem to be completely unable to imagine taking another life. While I don't understand it, I must respect it because it is their opinion. Sneaking a gun in is not the way to go. Too many possibilities that might have consequences that you won't like. One that comes to mind is you not being there, an invasion happens and they use YOUR weapon to kill your parents. Not a good thought....

rhino · 06-20-2008

If you keep a gun, it shouldn't be available to unauthorized persons at any time, regardless of whether it's secret or not. Either keep it on your person or locked away and there won't be any problems with unauthorized use.

Ri22o · 06-20-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhino

If you keep a gun, it shouldn't be available to unauthorized persons at any time, regardless of whether it's secret or not. Either keep it on your person or locked away and there won't be any problems with unauthorized use.

I was going to post about getting a gun lock box, or something similar. That would be the only way I would keep one 'secret'.

Annie · 06-20-2008

WTF?!!

If your name is NOT on the mortgage, you don't get a choice.

Of course an underhanded secret would be a GREAT way to repay the people who have sheltered you, fed you, clothed you, educated you...
Yeah, I'm starting to re-think my whole position.
NOT.

munky_3434 · 06-20-2008

the only thing i hid in my parents house when i lived there was porn. move out.besides when you get a girl at a bar(or anywhere else) it is'nt really cool to bring her to your parents house

Bill of Rights · 06-20-2008

You've gotten good advice here. His house, his rules. You may have good reasons for living where you do; maybe you're saving up now so you CAN move out, I don't know.

I think it's a fair bet that even if you DO try to hide your gun in his house, he will know, even if you say nothing to anyone, ever. Think back about 15 years: Were you ever really able to pull anything over on him? Anything big? Ever able to pull it off for long? C'mon, he's your father, he's known you since you were born!

Now... you are 21... so while he has every right to say what comes into his house and on his property, if you own your own car, (and by that I mean that you make all payments, only your name is on the title, you buy the insurance, gas, maintenance, and such, AND that car never comes into his driveway or his garage, he has no right to tell you that you cannot own a gun and keep it there. If you do this, he may still take exception; he won't be correct, but it's still his house and it may quickly no longer be your home! Additionally, you run the risk of either your car being burglarized or just being stolen, and your gun falling into criminal hands, but you DO have the right to choose what you buy and when. IMHO, waiting till you have your own place (which should probably be soon!) is probably best.

My advice in a nutshell? Choose wisely.

Blessings,
B

esrice · 06-20-2008

Dad's house = Dad's rules.

If you respect him, then you'll respect his wishes. When you have a place of your own, you'll have your own rules, and those can include "guns in EVERY room".

kbrown84 · 06-20-2008

Agreed Evan.
KB

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flagtag · 06-20-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by esrice

Dad's house = Dad's rules.

If you respect him, then you'll respect his wishes. When you have a place of your own, you'll have your own rules, and those can include "guns in EVERY room".

And until then, PRAY (if that's your thing) that God does protect him. He would need all the help he could get. (As do those he would put at risk.)

Good luck!

06-20-2008	#12 (permalink)
Annie Oakley Dead Eye Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rural southern Indiana Posts: 219	I think "his house, his rules" would be the only way to go. I would be more interested in seeing what his thinking is in depth. Some people seem to be completely unable to imagine taking another life. While I don't understand it, I must respect it because it is their opinion. Sneaking a gun in is not the way to go. Too many possibilities that might have consequences that you won't like. One that comes to mind is you not being there, an invasion happens and they use YOUR weapon to kill your parents. Not a good thought.... __________________ The Second Amendment.....America's Original Homeland Security Plan

06-20-2008	#13 (permalink)
rhino Somewhat Purple-ish Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,247	If you keep a gun, it shouldn't be available to unauthorized persons at any time, regardless of whether it's secret or not. Either keep it on your person or locked away and there won't be any problems with unauthorized use. __________________ Adaptive Consulting & Training **To prevail you must ACT! www.adaptiveconsultingandtraining.com Wabash Valley Practical Pistol Shooters www.wvpps.com Riley Conservation Club www.rileycc.com "The people shall have a right to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State." INDIANA CONSTITUTION** Article 1 - Bill of Rights - Section 32

06-20-2008	#15 (permalink)
Annie Trust The Monkey Join Date: May 2008 Location: N/E Corner Posts: 1,031	WTF?!! If your name is NOT on the mortgage, you don't get a choice. Of course an underhanded secret would be a GREAT way to repay the people who have sheltered you, fed you, clothed you, educated you... Yeah, I'm starting to re-think my whole position. NOT. __________________ ~~No matter how responsible she seems, never give a monkey your gun.~~

06-20-2008	#16 (permalink)
munky_3434 accuracy by volume Join Date: May 2008 Location: Brazil, IN Posts: 743	the only thing i hid in my parents house when i lived there was porn. move out.besides when you get a girl at a bar(or anywhere else) it is'nt really cool to bring her to your parents house __________________ Jack Burton: You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this? Thunder: Who? Jack Burton: Jack Burton. Me!

06-20-2008	#18 (permalink)
esrice INGO Greeter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southside, Indianapolis Posts: 1,656	Dad's house = Dad's rules. If you respect him, then you'll respect his wishes. When you have a place of your own, you'll have your own rules, and those can include "guns in EVERY room". __________________

06-20-2008	#11 (permalink)
haldir Marksman Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Goshen Posts: 486	Sorry, I don't like the idea of a secret gun in the house. So friends bring their kids over and you are out of the house. No one knows they need to worry about a pistol under your mattress or in the back of your closet, I don't think I need to draw much of a picture there. I never kept mine secret from my little ones. They knew where they were, knew they were loaded and never touched them. I took them out shooting when they were little and they were scared to death of them.

06-20-2008	#17 (permalink)
Bill of Rights Cogito, ergo porto. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Wherever you go, there you are. Posts: 1,778	You've gotten good advice here. His house, his rules. You may have good reasons for living where you do; maybe you're saving up now so you CAN move out, I don't know. I think it's a fair bet that even if you DO try to hide your gun in his house, he will know, even if you say nothing to anyone, ever. Think back about 15 years: Were you ever really able to pull anything over on him? Anything big? Ever able to pull it off for long? C'mon, he's your father, he's known you since you were born! Now... you are 21... so while he has every right to say what comes into his house and on his property, if you own your own car, (and by that I mean that you make all payments, only your name is on the title, you buy the insurance, gas, maintenance, and such, AND that car never comes into his driveway or his garage, he has no right to tell you that you cannot own a gun and keep it there. If you do this, he may still take exception; he won't be correct, but it's still his house and it may quickly no longer be your home! Additionally, you run the risk of either your car being burglarized or just being stolen, and your gun falling into criminal hands, but you DO have the right to choose what you buy and when. IMHO, waiting till you have your own place (which should probably be soon!) is probably best. My advice in a nutshell? Choose wisely. Blessings, B

06-20-2008	#19 (permalink)
kbrown84 Plinker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southside Posts: 21	Agreed Evan. KBopcorn2: __________________ "It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." "I smell the smelly smell of something that smells smelly!"

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