Poll: Heart or Lungs for a shot. - Page 2

Mrmonte · 07-02-2009

Bow...Behind the shoulder for the lung shot. If a clean broadside shot isnt possible, I dont let go of the string.

Shotgun...Right on the shoulder.

Head shot...Really? Not for me!

cosermann · 07-02-2009

Is the OP concerned about shots for firearms or bow? Also, are we talking head-on, broad side, quartering away, quartering toward? On the level? Down (as in from a tree stand)?
The OP mentioned a couple of vital organs. Once one knows where those organs are, the aim point is adjusted based on the animals position. Just saying heart or lungs assumes a lot.

Googling "best shot for deer heart or lungs" or "deer shot placement" will give you a lot to read - much of which is worthwhile.

Personally I go for the top of the heart which gives me a vital area about the size of a dinner plate (actually larger, although oblong in shape about 9"h and 12" long). The aim point to acheive this varies with the angle with which the animal presents itself.

jmiller676 · 07-02-2009

cosermann dont read to much into it. With a bow and firearm I do lung shots. I only take the shot if its there and don't force things. With a firearm I have learned that a shoulder blade wont stop a .58 cal or a 12 ga. slug so I aim for kungs regardless. With bow I hold off until there is a shot that I feel comfortable that I can ethically take the animal.

And hotfarmboy1...I'm glad we could shed some light. Myfriends have lost deer aiming for the heart and missing.

Jack Ryan · 07-02-2009

Heart, always the heart. Aim small, miss small, if you think you have a good shot on the heart and it turns out "a little wrong" you will get one lung at least and probably still get them both.

Lung shots just mean nasty meat and all the rest of those rigamarole recipes and shinanagins for special venison marinates that are really nothing but attempts to salvage what started as a bad shot.

Take out the pump first, that's the first step to good eats.

Who would ever aim at the 5 ring just because they don't think they could hit the bull?

Mrmonte · 07-02-2009

Interesting Jack. You are not a bow hunter, correct? You dont see the lung shot as a good option for firearms? A heart shot a little low or to far forward could be a lost injured deer. Not to mention the loss of meat that comes with the perfect broadside heart shot. What do you think is wrong with the meat from a lung shot animal? I cant tell the difference.

Jack Ryan · 07-02-2009

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Originally Posted by Mrmonte

Interesting Jack. You are not a bow hunter, correct? You dont see the lung shot as a good option for firearms? A heart shot a little low or to far forward could be a lost injured deer. Not to mention the loss of meat that comes with the perfect broadside heart shot. What do you think is wrong with the meat from a lung shot animal? I cant tell the difference.

Yep, I sure am a bow hunter.

Head shot, LOL.

It's not that it's not a "good shot". It's that it's not the best shot. I never aim for a second best shot on purpose and I can't remember the how long ago was the last time I had to blood trail or go look for a deer that I pulled the trigger on.

The adrenalin and hormones released in the panic when they are running are a huge part of giving venison that "gamey" smell and taste you hear people complaining about. Take out the pump, take out the gamey taste.

I'd like to know how many people giving all this advice have ever even killed a deer. When I first started here I noticed a guy giving hundreds of posts worth of advice and then suddenly he didn't even know if he needed to adjust his sights or even how to adjust the sights on his own hand gun, ROTFL.

Mrmonte · 07-03-2009

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Originally Posted by Jack Ryan

I'd like to know how many people giving all this advice have ever even killed a deer. When I first started here I noticed a guy giving hundreds of posts worth of advice and then suddenly he didn't even know if he needed to adjust his sights or even how to adjust the sights on his own hand gun, ROTFL.

Ive got 23 deer seasons under my belt. Shot my first deer at age 12 with a 30-30 in Pennsylvania. I always have my shotgun boresighted at Gander Mountain the night before the season starts so I know its on target, no stupid questions from me!

Just kidding about that last part

G-Niner · 07-02-2009

I try to take out both lungs.

cosermann · 07-02-2009

Sounds like you're clued in! The thing about heart shots is that if you miss low you've got a problem.

jmiller676 · 07-02-2009

Both lungs for me too

And the head shot was just one of those options I didn't really expect people to answer...

I do aim small miss small. But, if you happen to miss big ( 3-4") @ 20 yds with bow you can easily miss the deer but, if you're aiming for the lungs you can still clip the bottom and maybe hit the heart by chance. The adrenaline of the deer is over in seconds. 15 seconds is a long time for a lung shot usually you're looking r around 5 seconds on a good solid lung shot.

View Poll Results: Heart or lungs
Heart	20	40.82%
Lungs	25	51.02%
...I go for the head	4	8.16%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

07-02-2009	#2 (permalink)
cosermann Expert Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,234	Is the OP concerned about shots for firearms or bow? Also, are we talking head-on, broad side, quartering away, quartering toward? On the level? Down (as in from a tree stand)? The OP mentioned a couple of vital organs. Once one knows where those organs are, the aim point is adjusted based on the animals position. Just saying heart or lungs assumes a lot. Googling "best shot for deer heart or lungs" or "deer shot placement" will give you a lot to read - much of which is worthwhile. Personally I go for the top of the heart which gives me a vital area about the size of a dinner plate (actually larger, although oblong in shape about 9"h and 12" long). The aim point to acheive this varies with the angle with which the animal presents itself. Last edited by cosermann; 07-02-2009 at 14:09.

07-02-2009	#3 (permalink)
jmiller676 "Memo: 4 pounds of C-4 may be a bit...excessive." Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Goshen Posts: 921	cosermann dont read to much into it. With a bow and firearm I do lung shots. I only take the shot if its there and don't force things. With a firearm I have learned that a shoulder blade wont stop a .58 cal or a 12 ga. slug so I aim for kungs regardless. With bow I hold off until there is a shot that I feel comfortable that I can ethically take the animal. And hotfarmboy1...I'm glad we could shed some light. Myfriends have lost deer aiming for the heart and missing. __________________ "Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?"

07-02-2009	#10 (permalink)
jmiller676 "Memo: 4 pounds of C-4 may be a bit...excessive." Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Goshen Posts: 921	Both lungs for me too And the head shot was just one of those options I didn't really expect people to answer... I do aim small miss small. But, if you happen to miss big ( 3-4") @ 20 yds with bow you can easily miss the deer but, if you're aiming for the lungs you can still clip the bottom and maybe hit the heart by chance. The adrenaline of the deer is over in seconds. 15 seconds is a long time for a lung shot usually you're looking r around 5 seconds on a good solid lung shot. __________________ "Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?"

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07-02-2009	#1 (permalink)
Mrmonte Plinker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 132	Bow...Behind the shoulder for the lung shot. If a clean broadside shot isnt possible, I dont let go of the string. Shotgun...Right on the shoulder. Head shot...Really? Not for me!

07-02-2009	#4 (permalink)
Jack Ryan Expert Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lawrence county Posts: 2,403	Heart, always the heart. Aim small, miss small, if you think you have a good shot on the heart and it turns out "a little wrong" you will get one lung at least and probably still get them both. Lung shots just mean nasty meat and all the rest of those rigamarole recipes and shinanagins for special venison marinates that are really nothing but attempts to salvage what started as a bad shot. Take out the pump first, that's the first step to good eats. Who would ever aim at the 5 ring just because they don't think they could hit the bull?

07-02-2009	#5 (permalink)
Mrmonte Plinker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 132	Interesting Jack. You are not a bow hunter, correct? You dont see the lung shot as a good option for firearms? A heart shot a little low or to far forward could be a lost injured deer. Not to mention the loss of meat that comes with the perfect broadside heart shot. What do you think is wrong with the meat from a lung shot animal? I cant tell the difference.

07-02-2009	#8 (permalink)
G-Niner Plinker Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 68	I try to take out both lungs.

07-02-2009	#9 (permalink)
cosermann Expert Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,234	Sounds like you're clued in! The thing about heart shots is that if you miss low you've got a problem.

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