Welcome Hoosiers to INGunOwners.com.

You are currently viewing our firearms community as a guest which gives you limited access to many features. By joining our community you will have access to post and respond to topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), upload content, and much more!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, CLICK HERE to join our community today!

Go Back   INGunOwners > The Range > Women and Firearms


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-01-2008   #11 (permalink)
Plinker
 
hoosiertriangle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Speedway, IN
Posts: 101
hoosiertriangle will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to hoosiertriangle
W9ZEB

You are correct with respect to Indiana Castle Doctrine that civil liability is removed if the defense is justified. This also applies to use of deadly force when else authorized. As another note, the castle doctrine applies to your "curtlidge" or the area which is associated with your home (like the attached garage and probably even the shed out back). "[i]f the person reasonably believes that the force is necessary to prevent or terminate the other person's unlawful entry of or attack on the person's dwelling, curtilage, or occupied motor vehicle." 35-41-3-2(b)(2)
__________________
"They say the best weapon is one you never have to fire, I prefer the weapon you only need to fire once." --Tony Stark
hoosiertriangle is offline  
Digg this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2008   #12 (permalink)
Modberator
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Speedway
Posts: 2,415
Ri22o is a glorious beacon of lightRi22o is a glorious beacon of lightRi22o is a glorious beacon of lightRi22o is a glorious beacon of lightRi22o is a glorious beacon of lightRi22o is a glorious beacon of light
Send a message via AIM to Ri22o Send a message via Yahoo to Ri22o
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scutter01 View Post
There's no doubt in my mind that most women have a different mindset than men. I'd be interested in their responses as well.
I would be interested to hear this as well.

I talked with my girlfriend one night, and she told me that she would probably 'shoot them in the leg or something.' She also said some other things that I WTF'd at. This is when I informed her that you don't shoot to wound, you shoot to stop.
Ri22o is offline  
Digg this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2008   #13 (permalink)
Paranoid and Currently Being Chased
 
Bigum1969's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: SW Indiana
Posts: 1,587
Bigum1969 has a spectacular aura aboutBigum1969 has a spectacular aura aboutBigum1969 has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pami View Post
Thank you, and yes, we'd like to keep this forum focused on how women react to situations, and what we need to do to train differently than men. Most women these days aren't raised to be the protectors but rather the protected, and so yeah, our mindset is a little different sometimes. Now when children get involved... that's a completely different story.

Sorry about that. My bad.
__________________
Audentes fortuna juvet
Bigum1969 is online now  
Digg this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008   #14 (permalink)
Dead Eye
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Rural southern Indiana
Posts: 219
Annie Oakley will become famous soon enoughAnnie Oakley will become famous soon enough
I shoot primarily for fun. That being said all of my practice and training has been focused on accuracy and always in the back of my mind I am seeing a human figure that needs to be stopped. After living alone in the middle of nowhere after I was widowed it dawned on me that there was no one else to depend on . My mindset became "if they don't belong here and they are a threat they are going to be shot". I would never shoot as a warning or to wound. If the situation is bad enough for me to be shooting the BG is dead. It didn't take me long to realize that although life is precious whatever needs to be done to protect the innocent is what I will do. If you can't look at it that way, you should not pick up the weapon, IMHO. Even now that I am remarried I don't expect anyone else to protect me. If there is a problem and hubby is home we will be shoulder to shoulder.
__________________
The Second Amendment.....America's Original Homeland Security Plan
Annie Oakley is offline  
Digg this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008   #15 (permalink)
Avatar pictured below may not be actual size
 
Scutter01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Verify range to target, one RFC792 ICMP type 8 packet only, please.
Posts: 4,250
Scutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant future
Send a message via MSN to Scutter01
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annie Oakley View Post
After living alone in the middle of nowhere after I was widowed it dawned on me that there was no one else to depend on .
That moment of realization is startling. I've only ever had that once (the first time I solo'ed an aircraft), but it was profound and affected me deeply.
__________________



"I tried to search but since everyone seems to be obsessed with bacon I got over 200 hits." -colt45er

It's a bacon thing. You wouldn't understand.


Scutter01 is online now  
Digg this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008   #16 (permalink)
stamus contra malum
 
4sarge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SW Indiana
Posts: 1,589
4sarge is a splendid one to behold4sarge is a splendid one to behold4sarge is a splendid one to behold4sarge is a splendid one to behold4sarge is a splendid one to behold4sarge is a splendid one to behold4sarge is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annie Oakley View Post
My mindset became "if they don't belong here and they are a threat they are going to be shot". I would never shoot as a warning or to wound. If the situation is bad enough for me to be shooting the BG is dead. It didn't take me long to realize that although life is precious whatever needs to be done to protect the innocent is what I will do.If you can't look at it that way, you should not pick up the weapon
+1 Proper Mindset
__________________
JOIN NRA!!!, JOIN GOA!!!, but DO SOMETHING!!!
Admit NOTHING
Deny EVERYTHING
Demand PROOF

"We must all hang together or we shall surely hang separately."

Ben Franklin

Just Another Bitter American Clinging to my Glock 19
Certified Obama Elitist Apologist - Baruch Dayan Ha'Emet
4sarge is offline  
Digg this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008   #17 (permalink)
Not your average Joe
 
indyjoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Indy
Posts: 1,546
indyjoe is a jewel in the roughindyjoe is a jewel in the roughindyjoe is a jewel in the roughindyjoe is a jewel in the rough
I also didn't realize what forum we were in. (I'm addicted to the new posts feature...)

One thing I've always found interesting is the point brought up earlier in the threat about it being different with kids. I've talked with many women just learning to shoot (no always for self defense, most just for fun). When discussion turns to self defense, there is often some uncertainty if they could take the shot if it is just protecting themselves, even when talking with mothers.

However, we I asked what happens when the BG goes after the kids, the response is almost 100% "Oh, he's gonna die."
__________________
Appleseed Rifleman - 228 - I know what I am about.
indyjoe is offline  
Digg this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008   #18 (permalink)
Certified Cheesehead Importer
 
Pami's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Next to W9ZEB
Posts: 2,497
Pami has a brilliant futurePami has a brilliant futurePami has a brilliant futurePami has a brilliant futurePami has a brilliant futurePami has a brilliant futurePami has a brilliant futurePami has a brilliant futurePami has a brilliant futurePami has a brilliant futurePami has a brilliant future
Quote:
Originally Posted by indyjoe View Post
I also didn't realize what forum we were in. (I'm addicted to the new posts feature...)
Me, too. But the forum is listed out to the right side of the post link. You just have to get yourself in the habit of noticing it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by indyjoe View Post
One thing I've always found interesting is the point brought up earlier in the threat about it being different with kids. I've talked with many women just learning to shoot (no always for self defense, most just for fun). When discussion turns to self defense, there is often some uncertainty if they could take the shot if it is just protecting themselves, even when talking with mothers.

However, we I asked what happens when the BG goes after the kids, the response is almost 100% "Oh, he's gonna die."
It goes back to that whole mindset thing. When children become involved, I think, a woman armed with nothing but her teeth and fingernails becomes a lot more dangerous than a BG with a gun (in short range, anyway). She's a lot more determined to make sure the kids don't get hurt. Kind of like that teacher at the VT shooting that tried to buy time for the kids in his classroom by standing in front of the door.
__________________
"Some of the findings are perhaps contrary to popular perceptions; for example, over the 5-year study period [2000-2004], the use of knives/cutting instruments was over three times more prevalent than the use of a gun. (Based on Table 8.)"

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/schoolviolenc...troduction.htm



Pami is online now  
Digg this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008   #19 (permalink)
Avatar pictured below may not be actual size
 
Scutter01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Verify range to target, one RFC792 ICMP type 8 packet only, please.
Posts: 4,250
Scutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant futureScutter01 has a brilliant future
Send a message via MSN to Scutter01
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pami View Post
Me, too. But the forum is listed out to the right side of the post link. You just have to get yourself in the habit of noticing it.
It's also in the URL in the address bar, so you have an easy reference if you've already clicked on the link.
__________________



"I tried to search but since everyone seems to be obsessed with bacon I got over 200 hits." -colt45er

It's a bacon thing. You wouldn't understand.


Scutter01 is online now  
Digg this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008   #20 (permalink)
Not your average Joe
 
indyjoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Indy
Posts: 1,546
indyjoe is a jewel in the roughindyjoe is a jewel in the roughindyjoe is a jewel in the roughindyjoe is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pami View Post
It goes back to that whole mindset thing. When children become involved, I think, a woman armed with nothing but her teeth and fingernails becomes a lot more dangerous than a BG with a gun (in short range, anyway). She's a lot more determined to make sure the kids don't get hurt. Kind of like that teacher at the VT shooting that tried to buy time for the kids in his classroom by standing in front of the door.
And I don't think there is a problem with being a different mindset between solo self-defense and protecting someone else. If your protecting yourself, the main goal is not to die. If you are protecting others, the main goal is to stop the threat. If you die in the process, but it protects the kids, subconsciously that is a price willing to be paid.
__________________
Appleseed Rifleman - 228 - I know what I am about.
indyjoe is offline  
Digg this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Having a Gun in the house jontheturboguy General Firearms Discussion 12 06-28-2008 08:11
My house was shot while I was standing behind where it hit. Ruiner General Firearms Discussion 36 06-27-2008 20:30
Al Gore's Greener House BloodEclipse Politics, Laws and 2nd Amendment 5 06-27-2008 00:37
Everyone's Favorite Pachyderm ... in the house! rhino Introductions and Greetings 33 03-29-2008 22:16
Any Pittsburgh Steelers Fans in the house? indyninja Break Room 3 01-18-2008 16:00


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 19:38.


Powered By vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright 2008 INGunOwners

   image linking to 100 Top Guns and Gear Sites   

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164