Father, Daughters, Lifetime LTCH

[bwframe]

I have two daughters, 23 and 19. They have little interest in firearms or personal protection. I have proposed to them that I would pay for their lifetime LTCH license. Neither daughter has tossed it back to me, confirming they would pursue my "gift."

I did explain that the license is nothing more than making them legal. There would have to be training, well beyond my own safety instruction and range time with them, before they could actually carry.

My reasoning is;
- Their safety. If a fairly immediate threat occurs, their minds could change quickly. The idea of already being legal to carry would be much preferred to to waiting weeks or months. (Yes, I understand that my role would be intensified also. Training, resources, and $ for it now.)
- The paranoia that the lifetime license could go away. I say this as a holder of an IN Lifetime Comprehensive Hunting and Fishing License. Just try to get one of them now, you can't.

I would appreciate input on how to influence my daughters to take advantage of this. Or, tell me it's a bad idea and to let them be.

Thank you.

[AFA1CY]

It's a bad idea, let them be.

IMHO

[BloodEclipse]

Not a bad idea. Getting them the LTCH is the start. Educating them is next. The decision to carry or not should be left up to them. Maybe one or the other won't want to right away.... but she will always have it and if something happens (where she would feel safer) she can be legal instantly.
My daughter turns 17 in November and she wants her LTCH as soon as she becomes 18. I just hope they are still around by then.
Do your daughters show any interest at all? Do you take them to the range?
A good way to help them make up their minds to Carry would be to get them to read through the threads of this forum. Young adults don't always pay attention to what is going on in the world. At that age personal protection is easily overlooked.
Best of luck to you.

[Bill of Rights]

Agreed, not a bad idea at all. BloodEclipse, your daughter sounds to be in a similar situation to mine. I got my 4 year in 2006 and was told when I applied that I would be able to change it to a Lifetime as soon as that became available. My 4 year arrived the last week of June, 2006, and we all know about that last little provision the antis threw in at the last minute. I can't file for my Lifetime till just before Christmas next year.

Back to the OP, yes, if you can do it financially and timewise, if you trust them with firearms, and all the other concerns, then certainly get it while you can.

Blessings,
B

[Pami]

I agree that you should continue to encourage them to take you up on the offer. It should be approached gently, which it sounds like you're doing. If nothing else, tell them it is for your peace of mind. BloodEclipse is right; the young adults I know don't really think about the world around them personally or the danger that it represents.

Heck, I'm 31 and still catch myself thinking, "Well that wouldn't happen to me." or "That wouldn't happen here." But what if that situation I had at work really did blow up to be as bad as my paranoia imagined it? What if someone had broken into our house? What if someone had attacked me as I walked to my car after work one night?

BE brought up another good point --do they already go to the range with you? Do they enjoy it at all? If they ever wanted to go by themselves they would need to have the license just to transport the firearm to the range.

The right to carry should be their decision. But I would continue to encourage them to take you up on your offer to get the lifetime license.

[Scutter01]

I have a 9 year old daughter and I have a similar problem. I want her in some sort of martial art, even if it's just basic self-defense or situational awareness. I just cannot get her interested, however, and without interest there's no practice. Without practice, there's no skill. I realize that "she's only 9", but kids get kidnapped all the time. I would prefer that she not get kidnapped and that the guy that grabs her crawls away with a bloody crotch and a shattered kneecap.

The sad fact is that in today's world, she is at a much greater risk of personal attack simply because she's a girl. She needs to have to skills to defend herself.

From a practical standpoint, you can't force them to get an LTCH, of course, but you can put significant pressure on them to get one (a lifetime LTCH while they can still get it). It really won't do them any good if they don't have the interest, though. At least they'll be able to transport your guns legally, if nothing else.

It's also probable that they see getting a license as opening the door to you forcing them to take training that they aren't interested in. If they can stop you here, then they don't have to worry about being pressured to train. Perhaps if you make it clear where the pressure will end they would be more receptive.

[Ri22o]

I'm surprised no one has asked to see pictures of said daughters.

[esrice]

Originally Posted by Ri22o

I'm surprised no one has asked to see pictures of said daughters.

I don't think TomN is allowed in the Women's Forum.

[Ri22o]

Originally Posted by esrice

I don't think TomN is allowed in the Women's Forum.

Ah, that makes sense.

[haldir]

My family has always thought my love of guns was a bit odd for some reason. Neither my son or daughter have shown much interest. I did buy my daughter some pepper spray to carry with her. I figured I would just keep taking a run at them periodically.