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    Timjoebillybob

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    Common isn't gangster rap. Very talented poet.

    I'd disagree on the very talented, but I will agree that most of his stuff to the best of my knowledge isn't gangster rap. But he does have a few "gems" such as this one.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LssFolrpiD4&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
     

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    I try to be open minded about most things, but just about everything that Obummer does is contrary to what I would want or choose to do. He seems to be nearly a perfect opposite of me. I still have trouble understanding why he would insult the British by giving them back a bust of Winston Churchill. I know that the British were probably the biggest colonialists this world has ever seen and that the bammer seems to really dislike those countries and that the Great Britain is now a second rate country, but still the insult was not necessary. Neither was Michelle Obummer's gaffe of touching the queen or giving the prime minister a bunch of old western movies. It had to be a planned insult as the bammer and his socialist buddies could not be that stupid----or maybe they could. Anyone ever see his grade transcripts. His recently released birth certificate did not seem to change many minds from what I have been reading.
     

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    Obama to Honor Controversial Rapper Known for Cop-Killing, Misogynistic Lyrics | The Blaze
    I didn't know gansta rappers were poets. Thats a nice crowd they keep at the white house. Do you think it is just music and shouldn't be taken seriously? Is this poetry? Poets honored at white house and he is going. You gotta be kidding me.

    Common is not a "gangsta rapper" and rap was conceived from poetry, which many of the purists of the art-form continue to embrace. To answer your question, YES, it is poetry. Why would it not be considered poetry?

    I'm not sure when Common became controversial, but I'm sure it was at the point he was invited to the White House. As for the poem, I'm having trouble understanding what was said that is not said on INGO, EVERY DAY! “Tell the law my Uzi weighs a ton … I hold up a peace sign but I carry a gun.” What does this mean to you? The reason this is controversial is because it includes the famous "assault" weapon of the 80's and a man saying he carries a "gun". If you have a problem with this, it would seem you agree with the anti-gun agenda the President embraces.

    Maybe some believe the "controversial" rapper is actually a cop-killer or supports those who are? I doubt that since Common is one of the most upstanding individuals in his industry. Besides, most rappers aren't talking about killing the good cops, but only those who terrorize them in their neighborhoods. Purple added for those who need it. However, isn't this the sentiment that is read in most threads about the police?
     

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    As for the poem, I'm having trouble understanding what was said that is not said on INGO, EVERY DAY! “Tell the law my Uzi weighs a ton … I hold up a peace sign but I carry a gun.” What does this mean to you? The reason this is controversial is because it includes the famous "assault" weapon of the 80's and a man saying he carries a "gun". If you have a problem with this, it would seem you agree with the anti-gun agenda the President embraces.


    Word.

    I don't listen to Common, or "gangsta-rap" for that matter, but if Que has quoted the "controversial" lyrics correctly, then I agree, I read this type of stuff on INGO quite often.

    Common visiting the White House can't be any worse then when my Uncle Willie visited...this was just day's after he got thrown in the slammer, and Willie was even packin' heat while he was there. :cool:


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    I was going to post something, then I decided to put on some nice music, and completely forgot what I was going to say! Don't you just hate when that happens?

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    Common is not a "gangsta rapper" and rap was conceived from poetry, which many of the purists of the art-form continue to embrace. To answer your question, YES, it is poetry. Why would it not be considered poetry?

    I'm not sure when Common became controversial, but I'm sure it was at the point he was invited to the White House. As for the poem, I'm having trouble understanding what was said that is not said on INGO, EVERY DAY! “Tell the law my Uzi weighs a ton … I hold up a peace sign but I carry a gun.” What does this mean to you? The reason this is controversial is because it includes the famous "assault" weapon of the 80's and a man saying he carries a "gun". If you have a problem with this, it would seem you agree with the anti-gun agenda the President embraces.

    Maybe some believe the "controversial" rapper is actually a cop-killer or supports those who are? I doubt that since Common is one of the most upstanding individuals in his industry. Besides, most rappers aren't talking about killing the good cops, but only those who terrorize them in their neighborhoods. Purple added for those who need it. However, isn't this the sentiment that is read in most threads about the police?
    Good points, I stand corrected. I was going on a kneejerk reaction to the headline "rapper known for cop killing, Misogynistic lyrics". I don't know to much about rap and I am gonna have to look up misogynistic.:)
     

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    To answer your question, YES, it is poetry. Why would it not be considered poetry? ...

    ...As for the poem, I'm having trouble understanding what was said that is not said on INGO, EVERY DAY! “Tell the law my Uzi weighs a ton … I hold up a peace sign but I carry a gun.” What does this mean to you? The reason this is controversial is because it includes the famous "assault" weapon of the 80's and a man saying he carries a "gun". If you have a problem with this, it would seem you agree with the anti-gun agenda the President embraces.

    +1 Que. I thought the same thing when I listened to the poem. "This sounds just like an INGO thread -- only nicer!"

    I DO take offense at misogynistic lyrics and glorification of violence, so if that is a valid criticism of his work, he will find no fan in me, just as Tupac and others like him found no fan in me. My nephew is a hip hop artist and I don't approve of many of his songs either. But I am not familiar enough with Common's work to know (yet!) and this representation of his work is quite good I thought. But what does a 50 year old white lady know about hip hop? LOL
     

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    Rap music is as varied as every other kind of music. Much of it IS poetry. Some is certainly misogynist and anti-social, but not every song about killing is a statement of the rapper's personal beliefs, in some songs they are playing a character.

    Like for instance, when Johnny Cash sang in the first person about being in Folsom Prison, having shot a man "just to watch him die," a line that got huge cheers from the prison audiences he sang it to.

    Also, "gangsta rap" is used about as accurately as "ultra-conservative." To some, every conservative is "extreme," or "ultra" while to some who dislike and don't understand rap, most rap is "gangsta."
     
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    I prefer to listen to 'gangsta rap' redone in a classy way, in a style that can't be emulated by mere amateurs.:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBri1ySwmnk[/ame]
     

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    However, isn't this the sentiment that is read in most threads about the police?

    Que, I don't know of any INGO threads that promote "carrying strapped to make dem cops run".



    I don't know to much about rap and I am gonna have to look up misogynistic.:)

    :ungh:

    It means the content is denigrating to women.



    All in all, rap music has always been more about hate than anything else. Same as metal. Why when I was a younger man and angry about a lot of things in the world I listened to both, paying no heed to the words or the meaning behind them. THAT is a bad habit that I'm glad I shed.

    Now I listen to mostly country because "They're all songs about me, who I am. Songs about living and loving good hearted women, family and god".
     

    IndySSD

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    Like for instance, when John Cash sang in the first person about being in Folsom Prison, having shot a man "just to watch him die," a line that got huge cheers from the prison audiences he sang it to.


    Just like when he hears that whistle blowin... he hangs his head and cries...... remorse... that's the difference between cash and the rappers I grew up listening to. (Dre, Snoop, 2Pac, Biggie, 2short etc....)

    90% of all rap you heard was about ho's, weed and killin, but it had GREAT flow and would get the ladies movin.

    Once I grew up a little, I realized that the people doing those things weren't my kind of people.
     

    IndySSD

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    There's always a stick in the mud. People threw a fit about Elvis destroying the country's morality and Jim Morrison and Jazz Music and Delta Blues and Big Band Swing etc, etc.

    Meh, I don't care if people listen to rap or metal, I don't care if those artists go to the white house.

    I just think it's funny when people pass blatantly hateful content off as "art".

    Just call it what it is? Angry hateful words set to music.

    Kind of like pictures of naked men and women..... put them in a magazine or on PPV, it's porn.... put it in a frame and hang it on a wall somewhere and it's art..... Either way the only person I'm interested in seeing naked is my wife. Feel free to indulge yourself in all the "art" you (using the term "You" in a general sense) want though.

    Same with metal and rap music, listen and love it all you want, it's just not my cup o tea anymore.
     
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