Firearm transaction question

[Legba]

This was a topic of discussion in the break room at work last night....
How many of you ask to see someones ID or CCW when doing a FTF transaction? A guy I work with doesn't ask for any thing. It just seems kind of irresponsible as a gun owner to me. Everyone that I have sold a gun to had no problem showing me. The one that did have a problem with it didn't get the gun. Maybe I'm just a hard ass by doing this but I sleep better by doing it. Curios what your guide lines are on this.

 

[dblagent]

I would at least ask for the DL, just to see that they live in the state. Permit is not needed at a store, so why would I need to see it, but depending I might ask I suppose. Really only want to glance at the DL to make me happy.

 

[Benny]

I like asking for DL, and also a bill of sale write up, just to cover my butt in case he uses the gun for bad things...But it isn't necessary.

 

[Claddagh]

If the deal is for a longarm I'll check the DL and append the number to my copy of the Bill of Sale. Refusing to show me a valid license is a deal breaker, no matter how much cash they flash.

On a handgun I insist on a formal transfer as is required by state law, even for individuals and even when the buyer has a valid permit. Check the statute; it's there in black & white.

The cost of the required call is covered in the FFL holder's fee, and I'm covered on all of the legal technicalities.

 

[nighthawk80]

On either handguns or long guns, I just ask to see their DL and then make a copy of their address. I tell them upfront it is to protect my but. When I sell one I provide the same info. I see no harm in that. Maybe its just me.

I’ve just been lucky enough to have family members that can’t make up their mind on what they want. So I know who I’m buying it from.

 

[Soundslikejosh]

So its entirely possible I am just not catching on.... but I don't understand how a copy of the buyers driver's license and address covers the seller's butt? If the state doesnt need this information, why do we? I am aware that the state may in fact have a database that they aren't allowed to. For the sake of discussion, lets pretend they don't. If the gun is used in a crime, you would want to prove it wasn't still yours, but how would LEO know to come to you in the first place? Again, I may just not be seeing the obvious. I suppose clarifying that they are in fact a state resident is important, but beyond that, I don't understand the need for any more info. Hopefully someone will speak up and point out what I am missing, because I don't want to leave myself open to a liability. Also, I can respect that the buyer's address and other info isn't really any of my business.

 

[in812]

On a handgun I insist on a formal transfer as is required by state law, even for individuals and even when the buyer has a valid permit. Check the statute; it's there in black & white.

OK show me the "statute"

 

[bwframe]

On a handgun I insist on a formal transfer as is required by state law, even for individuals and even when the buyer has a valid permit. Check the statute; it's there in black & white.

I'm sure I've heard differently on this. Can you back it up with the "statute" or a link to it?

 

[bwframe]

So its entirely possible I am just not catching on.... but I don't understand how a copy of the buyers driver's license and address covers the seller's butt? If the state doesnt need this information, why do we? I am aware that the state may in fact have a database that they aren't allowed to. For the sake of discussion, lets pretend they don't. If the gun is used in a crime, you would want to prove it wasn't still yours, but how would LEO know to come to you in the first place? Again, I may just not be seeing the obvious. I suppose clarifying that they are in fact a state resident is important, but beyond that, I don't understand the need for any more info. Hopefully someone will speak up and point out what I am missing, because I don't want to leave myself open to a liability. Also, I can respect that the buyer's address and other info isn't really any of my business.

If I understand your question correctly. You buy a gun from say MCsports. They have a record of the sale to you. The gun is used in a murder and found at the scene. Serial #s are run tracing back to the sale. If you have a record of when and who you sold it to, it takes you out of the murder suspect loop. This is not an official record filed with govt, just something to cover your tail.

 

[nighthawk80]

/\... That's why I do it. Not for the State sake, but to remove myself from the equation.

 

[in812]

If I understand your question correctly. You buy a gun from say MCsports. They have a record of the sale to you. The gun is used in a murder and found at the scene. Serial #s are run tracing back to the sale. If you have a record of when and who you sold it to, it takes you out of the murder suspect loop. This is not an official record filed with govt, just something to cover your tail.

+1
and in indiana you ARE NOT required to report a lost or stolen firearm but see above