Legal question: Private ranges, urban sprawl and nuisance challenges

[Fenway]

Any ideas on the questions below?

Does anyone know of cases or legal theories used in other states to keep private shooting ranges from being subject to nuisance challenges when subdivision move onto adjoining land.

How other private citizens, who are encroached upon by the urban sprawl, seeing it coming, protect a challenge in the future by someone who does not yet live there.

Thanks, Fenway

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Does anyone know of cases or legal theories used in other states to keep private shooting ranges from being subject to nuisance challenges when subdivision move onto adjoining land.

Sure, bunches. I know the attorney in the Office of General Counsel NRA who does primarily shooting range defense. He and I killed a few Yuenglings in Pittsburgh.

1. Legislative: many states have legislation specifically on point on ranges.

2. Administrative: working with the Board of Zoning Appeals and the like.

3. Judicial: moving to the nuisance, assumption of risk, and a bunch more play a part here.

But what is your question?

How other private citizens, who are encroached upon by the urban sprawl, seeing it coming, protect a challenge in the future by someone who does not yet live there.

1. Buy as much buffer as you can.

2. Not being a jerk. Yeah, I know, get your Wookie on and tell me "meye rights" but if you blazing away with an MP40 at 7AM on a Sunday, your sky will turn legal pad yellow. Enjoy your land in a usufruct manner, plus if you have a range, maybe you'll cut the &*^%$# grass so you can find your brass.

3. Good relations with the neighbors. Invite them over so they know it is safe.

4. Building an effective backstop so crap does not leave your range.

5. Use suppressors as much as you can.

 

[MTC]

Sure, bunches. I know the attorney in the Office of General Counsel NRA who does primarily shooting range defense. He and I killed a few Yuenglings in Pittsburgh.

Wow. Outstanding. Got an answer in 3 minutes!

2. Not being a jerk. Yeah, I know, get your Wookie on and tell me "meye rights" but if you blazing away with an MP40 at 7AM on a Sunday, your sky will turn legal pad yellow. Enjoy your land in a usufruct manner, plus if you have a range, maybe you'll cut the &*^%$# grass so you can find your brass.

We're gonna have to come up with an additional Law of the Internet that whenever Kirk and issues of property are in the same thread, the odds of the term "usufruct" appearing are near 100%.

Judge: "Why did you hit him?"

Cletus: "But Judge, he up'n' cawled me a usufructin' tortfeasor!"

 

[Fenway]

Thanks Kirk!

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

And our word for the day is 'usufruct':

From Wikipedia:

Usufruct is a right of enjoyment enabling a holder to derive profit or benefit from property that either is titled to another person or which is held in common ownership, as long as the property is not damaged or destroyed.

 

[backfire]

Agenda 21 will soon destroy and/or likely eliminate private ranges and quite possibly public ranges also if it's tentacles keep digging themselves in.

Googe it and read about it- it will OPEN your eyes and make you sick, as to what the establishment wants and what they've already achieved; right under your very nose.....

 

[Kirk Freeman]

It's not Agenda 21 that we have to worry about.

 

[Hoosierbuck]

Del Webb v. Spur Industries is all I have to say about that. Remember that one, Kirk?

HB

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I remember it from school yes.

 

[MACHINEGUN]

Kirk is the man! Always has great legal advice.. kudos!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Fenway, seriously, what is your question?

I leave in a couple of hours for St. Louis. Anything you want me to ask at the seminar???

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

It's not Agenda 21 that we have to worry about.

I've heard of the Agenda 21 thing...can you elaborate on what you're referring to, Kirk?

 

[indykid]

Look into how Airports require housing developments to have a section in their construction permit acknowledging the noise possibility and accepting it. I believe they now require people building in known airport noise areas to sign a release stating they know about the noise potential and accept it. This might work for a shooting range as well.