Trap league is starting up --At 71 - to try to stay in the game - I am switching from my standard 12 gauge 1 1/8 ounce, 7 1/2 shot loads to 7/8 ounce 8 1/2 shot. --7/8 ounce of 8 1/2 has 435 BBs versus my old 1 1/8 - 7 1/2s with 394 BBs--25% less recoil-- less cost -- has worked great at the 16 yard line.