Saw these on line and I simply cant figure out how its safe. I did not in a reasonable search find any manufactures web site, only retailers who dont say much on not using them in old weak shotguns Did say break open single shot but they run the whole spectrum of strength also. While the bolt thrust on 223 isnt to out of line for a scatter gun. But man! If anyone has a better understanding of how these are safe please feel free to share it with me Thanks much