I got pulled over last night...

[Bunnykid68]

OP mentioned lying to an officer about having a firearm. Technically there is no investigation going on other than fishing, so could you get in trouble for that lie or would it just be one those things that just **** LEO off

 

[mainjet]

somethin' startin' to stink in here. It seems evasive and I am about to put someone in cuffs until we get to the bottom of this and get some truthful answers to these questions

How come we can't find out what the stop was for or if he had his permit with him?

 

[Chefcook]

somethin' startin' to stink in here. It seems evasive and I am about to put someone in cuffs until we get to the bottom of this and get some truthful answers to these questions

How come we can't find out what the stop was for or if he had his permit with him?

Yes I had my permit. The stop was for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. I was not ticketed...

 

[kludge]

No. The officer has no rights. He only has authority. Authority granted to him by the [STRIKE]state[/STRIKE] people.

fixed

 

[kludge]

I'm with you, Chefcook, I'm not answering any questions until at least that is out of the way. Once that question is answered I can decide whether or not to answer any of your other questions.

 

[iChokePeople]

I find it interesting that so many here jump to one conclusion, that the LEO was asking questions with the purpose of finding more or the assumption that he was guilty of something else. I've been pulled over many times for something I legitimately did wrong and in situations where the LEO involved could have just asked for my license and reg and written me. Instead, they were friendly, in what I [obviously mistakenly...] assumed was an attempt to figure out what kind of person I was. I am routinely friendly and respectful [holster sniffer/boot licker/whatever] to people, including LEOs who seem to be doing their jobs, and was in these cases. In almost every case, they chatted with me for a minute, apparently decided I was an ok, law-abiding guy who made a mistake, and let me go. In a couple cases, I got speeding tickets. OK, I was speeding. You have the right to refuse to answer their questions, but that doesn't necessarily make it the best course of action. My mother always taught me you'll catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. My goal when pulled over is to leave without a ticket. I have found that, for me, that's best accomplished by not being a prick. YMMV.

 

[ATM]

My mother always taught me you'll catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

But you're not trying to catch them, and you're not even the fly in this situation - you're a fish.

My goal when pulled over is to leave without a ticket. I have found that, for me, that's best accomplished by not being a prick. YMMV.

And once again, keeping the conversation limited to the required business at hand = being a prick.

 

[iChokePeople]

Serious question -- would those of you who are opposed to the LEO being chatty prefer that he just asked for your license and reg and wrote you the ticket you deserved, every time, no questions asked? Me, I would not. I'd prefer that they talk to me and maybe find out that I'm an ok guy, average citizen, who wasn't up to anything and doesn't habitually break the law, and wish me a nice day and would I please watch my speed (etc) a little more closely.

 

[ATM]

Oh, I'd much prefer chatty. I'm naturally a chatty person.

Unfortunately, a few officers will cuff you, disarm you, search your vehicle and/or still give you a ticket at some point while "chatting" with them.

I won't know which type I'm dealing with until it's over so I'll err on the side of strictly business.

 

[snowman46919]

Oh, I'd much prefer chatty. I'm naturally a chatty person.

Unfortunately, a few officers will cuff you, disarm you, search your vehicle and/or still give you a ticket at some point while "chatting" with them.

I won't know which type I'm dealing with until it's over so I'll err on the side of strictly business.

The chatty ones have all been the ones that issue me a citation, except for the one that asked if I was related to so and so. Cautiously I said yes and found out it was the officer that arrested him for urinating on his cop car from on top of a football stadium. Amazingly I got a warning.

 

[SirRealism]

If it were just chatty conversation, then I, as one of the participants, should be able to steer the convo to a subject I enjoy. I don't really care for that kind of chat.

If it were truly just chatting, I should also be able to "chat" back: "Where are you coming from? Where are you going? Do you realize it's dangerous to carry your firearm in that manner?" Oh yeah, that'd go well.

 

[snowman46919]

If it were just chatty conversation, then I, as one of the participants, should be able to steer the convo to a subject I enjoy. I don't really care for that kind of chat.

If it were truly just chatting, I should also be able to "chat" back: "Where are you coming from? Where are you going? Do you realize it's dangerous to carry your firearm in that manner?" Oh yeah, that'd go well.

You forgot have you been drinking?

 

[Benny]

The chatty ones have all been the ones that issue me a citation, except for the one that asked if I was related to so and so. Cautiously I said yes and found out it was the officer that arrested him for urinating on his cop car from on top of a football stadium. Amazingly I got a warning.

LOL, lucky bastard.

 

[mainjet]

Yes I had my permit. The stop was for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. I was not ticketed...

Thank you sir. This helps.

 

[norman428]

I also have a serious question.... Lets say Your on your way to the hospital, Maybe your dad just had a heart attack, Your wife is in the middle of giving birth, whatever the case may be...Bam, you get stopped for speeding.
Are you going to tell the officer your on your way to the hospital because your wife is giving birth? Or just let him take his time in his car, No rush, maybe chat you up, taking even more time....Ask for permits....more time....Sloooowly write you that ticket you deserve...more time...
Because according to you guys its really none of his business. why would you tell him. Its not like maybe hes been in that situation, and may try to speed things up for you.
Maybe he has your view? and by telling him, hes going to agree thats none of his business and ignore it?
just curious.

 

[snowman46919]

I also have a serious question.... Lets say Your on your way to the hospital, Maybe your dad just had a heart attack, Your wife is in the middle of giving birth, whatever the case may be...Bam, you get stopped for speeding.
Are you going to tell the officer your on your way to the hospital because your wife is giving birth? Or just let him take his time in his car, No rush, maybe chat you up, taking even more time....Ask for permits....more time....Sloooowly write you that ticket you deserve...more time...
Because according to you guys its really none of his business. why would you tell him. Its not like maybe hes been in that situation, and may try to speed things up for you.
Maybe he has your view? and by telling him, hes going to agree thats none of his business and ignore it?
just curious.

My experience, they don't effing care around here. I had the nursery bracelet on my wrist that lets me on the delivery/nursery floor and the JBT told me bull**** and called me a liar, no purple here. There was also a recent news story where a guy was escorted by police at high speed on the highway because his wife was in labor and once they arrived they issued him a citation.

 

[iChokePeople]

Me experience, they don't effing care around here. I had the nursery bracelet on my wrist that lets me on the delivery/nursery floor and the JBT told me bull**** and called me a liar, no purple here. There was also a recent news story where a guy was escorted by police at high speed on the highway because his wife was in labor and once they arrived they issued him a citation.

And valid, but just for the record, I got a quick 'have a nice night, slow down' in exactly the same situation. My wife had just given birth, I'd made a quick run out to the office to grab some things, was headed back to the hospital to hang out for a while and was driving a little too fast. He pulled me over, walked up, noticed the bracelet, asked what it was for. I told him, very briefly, he told me to watch my speed and have a nice night, congratulations, and consider this a congratulations gift. Yes, there are some LEOs out there who are pricks or power hungry, there are some who are incompetent, there are some who are all kinds of things, just like in every other profession or group, but there are a lot who are decent people trying to make a living and do their best at their jobs. No, I'm not a LEO, have never been, don't have any relatives who are.

 

[snowman46919]

And valid, but just for the record, I got a quick 'have a nice night, slow down' in exactly the same situation. My wife had just given birth, I'd made a quick run out to the office to grab some things, was headed back to the hospital to hang out for a while and was driving a little too fast. He pulled me over, walked up, noticed the bracelet, asked what it was for. I told him, very briefly, he told me to watch my speed and have a nice night, congratulations, and consider this a congratulations gift. Yes, there are some LEOs out there who are pricks or power hungry, there are some who are incompetent, there are some who are all kinds of things, just like in every other profession or group, but there are a lot who are decent people trying to make a living and do their best at their jobs. No, I'm not a LEO, have never been, don't have any relatives who are.

Like I said it can go both ways, I gave examples to both. I don't expect to get treated that way if I ever have another kid and get pulled over because this guy was a jack wagon (think mall cop that got a badge when the town marshal retired.)

 

[BigGuyinMuncie]

I say bravo to you for keeping your composure and handling the situation with tact. I don't agree with the officer removing your weapon, wonder what he would think if he were off duty, out of town and told a cop standing at his window that he was carrying and the officer treated him the same way? Doubt he would be to happy about it either....What can you do, it's the world we live in.

 

[snowman46919]

I say bravo to you for keeping your composure and handling the situation with tact. I don't agree with the officer removing your weapon, wonder what he would think if he were off duty, out of town and told a cop standing at his window that he was carrying and the officer treated him the same way? Doubt he would be to happy about it either....What can you do, it's the world we live in.

Before or after he tried to pull the let me just get my idea out of my badge wallet, oops the cover came off and you can see my shield.