Police Beating Of Man Caught On Tape

gunman41mag · Apr 23, 2011

redneckmedic said:
Question.

If you were this filmers spouse, and witnessed this entire episode... would you be within your legal rights to take defensive action? Fatal defensive action?

Are you ever within your legal rights to open fire on a LEO, first?

There was thread a couple of years ago that asked a question similar, about shooting at a cop in public. It was highly scrutinized. I think this video is fairly close to showing that sometimes you are justified. I would not have intervened in this particular situation, but damn, it would have sucked to be their!

Can you image if the guy, would have opened his front door & let out his 125 pound PIT BULL

The COP wouldn't be happy :):

MinuteMan47 · Apr 23, 2011

redneckmedic said:
Are you ever within your legal rights to open fire on a LEO, first?

I'm wondering if someone can find an example of where a citizen legally defended themselves against a LEO in a scenario such as this one (or where justified)...

rambone · Apr 23, 2011

What makes you citizens think that you have the right to resist the will of the State?

gunman41mag · Apr 23, 2011

rambone said:
What makes you citizens think that you have the right to resist the will of the State?

Hmmm my gun

Ogre · Apr 24, 2011

This discussion just got interesting and very educational... I too would like to know the legalities of defending ones self or loved ones from assault by LE...

MACHINEGUN · Apr 24, 2011

He should have told the police officer from the get go that was his own driveway he was in.. what a dumbass!

public servant · Apr 24, 2011

MACHINEGUN said:
He should have told the police officer from the get go that was his own driveway he was in.

That's what I was thinking. I wonder why he said no when asked if he lived there?

MACHINEGUN · Apr 24, 2011

public servant said:
I wonder why he said no when asked if he lived there?

Because he's a dumbass!

BigGuyinMuncie · Apr 24, 2011

Wish the camera would have been pointed the other way so that we could see what all that screaming was really about. I believe the cop over stepped, but I wonder how much of that screaming was for the tape. This guy has been in the situation before and knew that there would be a payday for what the cop was doing. Just my :twocents:

Hotdoger · Apr 24, 2011

public servant said:
That's what I was thinking. I wonder why he said no when asked if he lived there?

Maybe since a police officer can lie legally, he figured he could say what he wanted to say, since he was doing nothing illegal on his own property.

Hotdoger · Apr 24, 2011

MACHINEGUN said:
Because he's a dumbass!

Who is going to be paid handsomely while the police officer may end up out of a job and may face criminal charges.

Whos the dumbass now?

public servant · Apr 24, 2011

Hotdoger said:
Maybe since a police officer can lie legally, he figured he could say what he wanted to say, since he was doing nothing illegal on his own property.

Relax turbo. I just asked a question. I'm not sure why he just didn't say, "yep...I live here".

Hotdoger · Apr 24, 2011

public servant said:
Relax turbo. I just asked a question. I'm not sure why he just didn't say, "yep...I live here".

Relax ?

I was just giving my opinion.

You agreed with the "dumbass" comment " I see. Seems to me any reasonable person that watched the VID would say the Cop was the "dumbass" and now the taxpayers will pay for the "dumbass" cop's actions.

The cop was leaving the scene and stopped and confrontedthe filmer. How stupid can you get?

public servant · Apr 24, 2011

Hotdoger said:
Relax ?

I was just giving my opinion.

You agreed with the "dumbass" comment " I see. Seems to me any reasonable person that watched the VID would say the Cop was the "dumbass" and now the taxpayers will pay for the "dumbass" cop's actions.

The cop was leaving the scene and stopped and confrontedthe filmer. How stupid can you get?

I don't recall calling anyone a dumbass. Or agreeing anyone was a dumbass. If you read my response to machinegun's statement...you'll see I specifically edited the "dumbass" part out. My thoughts on his intelligence level has no bearing on the thread.

My only question in this entire thread I believe was I wondered why he said he didn't live there.

But I will openly state...that if the po-po ask *me* if I live there and I do...my response is..."yep".

gunman41mag · Apr 24, 2011

Hotdoger said:
Maybe since a police officer can lie legally, he figured he could say what he wanted to say, since he was doing nothing illegal on his own property.

What have we learned from this, to always keep a box of donuts in the other hand when you film the COPS

just in case a cop gets anger

silverspoon · Apr 24, 2011

Hotdoger said:
..

The cop was leaving the scene and stopped and confrontedthe filmer. How stupid can you get?

And there you have it. Obviously there had been no complaints of someone trespassing so why did the police officer stop? The officer was wrong the second he stopped and anything the resident done after that is moot.

As far as resisting illegal intrusion by law enforcement one only needs to look at Ruby Ridge or Waco to see what happens to citizens who resist. They either kill you, your wife, your kids and associates or trump up a so many charges you will be lucky to see the light of day ever again. Your better off just to take the beating and hope to get a little cash after it's all over.

gunman41mag · Apr 24, 2011

silverspoon said:
And there you have it. Obviously there had been no complaints of someone trespassing so why did the police officer stop? The officer was wrong the second he stopped and anything the resident done after that is moot.

As far as resisting illegal intrusion by law enforcement one only needs to look at Ruby Ridge or Waco to see what happens to citizens who resist. They either kill you, your wife, your kids and associates or trump up a so many charges you will be lucky to see the light of day ever again. Your better off just to take the beating and hope to get a little cash after it's all over.

Problem is I'm to old to take a beat-down from anybody, especially in my property from any thug with or without a badge

Phil502 · Apr 24, 2011

public servant said:
That's what I was thinking. I wonder why he said no when asked if he lived there?

Somewhere in the story he said the cop made him nervous.

gunman41mag · Apr 24, 2011

Phil502 said:
Somewhere in the story he said the cop made him nervous.

nervous

A hostile guy with a gun is coming toward you, I think he was more than just nervous :twocents:

silverspoon · Apr 24, 2011

gunman41mag said:
Problem is I'm to old to take a beat-down from anybody, especially in my property from any thug with or without a badge

I hear ya

Just plan on that day being the last day of the life you once knew cause one way or another your going down, they will make sure of it

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