Outlaws MC raided by FBI

[serpicostraight]

Let me ask you a question. How much experience do you have with the Outlaws?


I actually have some experience with them. I met Taco Bowman in the early 90's. I went to parties at the Outlaws clubhouse in Chicago. I have actually met and partied with three separate chapters, back in the early 90's, all at the Chicago clubhouse. Every last one of them was a violent criminal.

Every. Last. One. Without. Exception.


That clubhouse was the most dangerous place I've ever been in my life.

over the years i have partied with the outlaws, pagans,ha, etc and i will be the first to admit they all have thier own agenda. but the one thing i have found for the most part if you dont get involved in thier biz they dont get involved in yours. there are always exceptions but not many ive seen.

 

[serpicostraight]

Ok Serpico, the Outlaws are a criminal organization. Every "full patch" member is a criminal and actively participates in crimes. You don't get "in" unless you prove that you are every bit a criminal as the rest of them.
Not holding someone accountable (ie guilty by association) may be applied to hang-arounds or prospects (and that's a HUGE stretch), but to "patched in" guys, no way. They are criminals.

jaybird dobbins too?

 

[jbombelli]

over the years i have partied with the outlaws, pagans,ha, etc and i will be the first to admit they all have thier own agenda. but the one thing i have found for the most part if you dont get involved in thier biz they dont get involved in yours. there are always exceptions but not many ive seen.

Unless you're flying a patch from another club in an area where the Outlaws are active. And it doesn't have to be a 1% patch. Family club colors will result in the same thing. The only patch you can get away with is an ABATE patch.

Of course the Hell's Angels, Pagans, Mongols, Bandidos, Sons of Silence, and all the rest of the 1% clubs are the same way.

 

[KG1]

Wow. Looks like this turned into the name dropping thread.

 

[dubsac]

Thought it was disturbing how the story talked about them putting the body of there leader on the pool table.

 

[mrortega]

Dang. I was going to carry my G27 tomorrow but I think I'll strap on the 23 and a couple 15 round mags.

 

[HiRoller]

Weed Weaver was a notable Outlaw here in Indy back in the day, He seemed like a nice enuff guy in person.

OCT 1990 INDIANAPOLIS A Hancock circuit court judge was expected to sentence convicted murderer Steven Weed Weaver today and the Indianapolis man may get the electric chair Weaver 32 a member of the Outlaws motorcycle gang has con fessed to the brutal 1988 murder of Steven Rexroat and says he wel comes and expects the death sentence I want to go to Death Row to be executed so I dont have to spend the rest of my life in Weaver said When I was a kid I was always told Dont dish it out if you cant take I would be a hypocrite to beg for my life he said Weaver is serving a sentence for shooting his second wife Cynthia and for murdering Outlaws President David W Pig Pen Lakes Weaver confessed that he shot Rexroat at least three times eventually killing him with a blow to the head with a hammer The next day Weaver says he dismembered Rexroat with a chain saw and stuffed the body parts into two steel drums

 

[No Lot Lizards]

Very simple, if you support criminals, then it you probably (sorry definitely) don't support law enforcement.

Well I definitely dont support tax collecto....er....I mean "law enforcement"...I think you will find more honest decent citizens in The Outlaws than you will in your average police department.

 

[wrigleycub]

I have personal experience with the Outlaws, from a motorcycling standpoint, and wearing a family club patch and rocker, and I can assure you they ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE.

Im gonna call BS on you, so BS.

 

[wrigleycub]

Unless you're flying a patch from another club in an area where the Outlaws are active. And it doesn't have to be a 1% patch. Family club colors will result in the same thing. The only patch you can get away with is an ABATE patch.

Of course the Hell's Angels, Pagans, Mongols, Bandidos, Sons of Silence, and all the rest of the 1% clubs are the same way.

^^^^^^more

 

[jkirby]

But you don't wear a patch from another club, do you?


It's not outlandish at all. I was in another club (a family club, not 1%), and know what happens, and I know what I'm talking about.

Many of you don't, because you've never been part of the organized motorcycling world.

Actually I do wear a patch of an MC, we are not a 1% club but we are a well established club thats been around since the late 70's. So I would also say I know about the workings of the organized motorcycling world.

 

[Hammerhead]

The only patch you can get away with is an ABATE patch.

Good thing that these are all the colors I have, then, aside from what might be considered "morale" patches.

Then again, I ride an older Jap bike and don't ride with anyone else.

I've considered getting one of those "Lone Wolf - No Club" patches. Don't know if it's worth it or not.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Well I definitely dont support tax collecto....er....I mean "law enforcement"...I think you will find more honest decent citizens in The Outlaws than you will in your average police department.

Yeah bro, that's a stretch....

 

[sepe]

I can't believe so many people think 1% motorcycle clubs are decent people.

I have personal experience with the Outlaws, from a motorcycling standpoint, and wearing a family club patch and rocker, and I can assure you they ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE.

I'm not going to go into detail, but I can name a dozen people who had their lives and the lives of their families threatened, myself included, by them. All because of a patch and not wanting to be a 1% club affiliated with them.



But then again people in Pablo Escobar's neighborhoods loved him, too.

Did the rocker have a state name on it? From the guys I know in clubs, this is what has caused problems. I've known MANY people that belong to different social/family clubs that have had 0 issues because they wear a 1 piece patch. I know people that belong to Sons of God (which wears a 3 piece patch). I know a guy that rode with a 1% club in Indiana from the late 60s through the early 80s. When he got out of prison in the early 90s, he decided he was done with that lifestyle and left it. He now rides with Sons of God and wears a 3 piece patch.

Unless you're flying a patch from another club in an area where the Outlaws are active. And it doesn't have to be a 1% patch. Family club colors will result in the same thing. The only patch you can get away with is an ABATE patch.

Of course the Hell's Angels, Pagans, Mongols, Bandidos, Sons of Silence, and all the rest of the 1% clubs are the same way.

Maybe I'm talking out of my ass but I've personally seen Outlaws giving respect to Sons of God. I've seen them give a great deal of respect to B.A.C.A. and I've seen them give respect to D.B.A. (downed bikers association). I have heard of social/family clubs having issues with outlaw clubs because of the rockers and I've heard of some having issues because they didn't show respect. Btw, one of the guys I know is heavily involved in the Texas Confederation of Clubs. He rides with Sons of God. He sits with Bandidos, Mongols, other Christian clubs, and independents during meetings.

 

[No Lot Lizards]

Yeah bro, that's a stretch....

Its not. In my opinion, there are more innocent folks in prison than there are innocent cops.

 

[Denny347]

Well I definitely dont support tax collecto....er....I mean "law enforcement"...I think you will find more honest decent citizens in The Outlaws than you will in your average police department.

Its not. In my opinion, there are more innocent folks in prison than there are innocent cops.

 

[jbombelli]

You guys can call BS all you want. I was there, you weren't.

And yes, we had the state rocker under our name and symbol. And I'm sure that was part of the problem.

That some of you don't know the truth about these a-holes is not a reflection on me. It's a reflection only on you, and your willing ignorance.

 

[churchmouse]

Let me ask you a question. How much experience do you have with the Outlaws?


I actually have some experience with them. I met Taco Bowman in the early 90's. I went to parties at the Outlaws clubhouse in Chicago. I have actually met and partied with three separate chapters, back in the early 90's, all at the Chicago clubhouse. Every last one of them was a violent criminal.

Every. Last. One. Without. Exception.


That clubhouse was the most dangerous place I've ever been in my life.

Yes, that place is incredibly nuts. The Daytona chapter puts on a good party during bike week. Had a butt load of fun there. Have a pic of me and the wife in front of the Bra wall.

That said....yes, every. last. one.

 

[cordex]

Its not. In my opinion, there are more innocent folks in prison than there are innocent cops.

You simply don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

I retyped this post several times. I started with establishing my bona fides as someone who both knows a number of LEOs personally, and simultaneously hates LEO abuse ... but it just isn't worth the time. At best you are ignorant of reality.

As a concrete example ... I had a LEO and fellow INGOer come over to my house yesterday. I felt perfectly comfortable with him playing with my 8 month old daughter and talking to my wife when I wasn't there. I can state without reservation that I would never have been comfortable with any of the prisoners I know (my wife and I exchange letters with one on a regular basis - not even him) or any 1%er motorcycle club member doing the same. Would you?

 

[Ted]

This is correct. Every patched member, every last one, is a violent criminal. You have to be in order to become a fully patched member.

Every last one is a violent criminal? I'm not saying that they're Saints, but I'm calling BS on this one.