the first time i posted this it took 20 minutes because i went so in depth and when i clicked post it said i had to log in becasue i was logged out and then it didnt post my post so im pretty ticked about that but im going to post it again but muuuch less and probaly missing alot more info.
i was stopped on 7/24/2012 for a seat belt, i told the officer i had my fnx .40 on my side he seemed to freak out called for back up had 3 squad cars behind me and he repeatedly asked me for my gun telling me he was going to call the prosecutor and get the prosecutor to back him up. i told him abouty TERRY V. Ohio and he said the it didnt matter due to officer safety i knew he was lieng but gave him my firearm because he was verrrry angry and was worried of an "AD" on his part.
he took my weapon called up 2 other squad cars and ran my license as well as my wifes he saw in my wallet (who doesnt have my same last name) he asked me why she had a different last name and i asked if that was a crime and if not it isnt his business.
in my rear view mirror i saw him flipping through a book i can assume is a law book and came back asked me to come to the back of the car to talk to him but made sure to tell me i didnt have to, i obliged because i wanted to get a chance to say what i had to say.
he told me about how he does this for officer safety and tells me about how many cops are killed during traffic stops, i tell him no offense i dont care about officer safety i just want to get home in a timely matter considering im legal have my LTCH am not a felon and am only being stopped for a traffic stop not related to my firearm. (oh by the way the way when he origanally pulled the officer safety thing when i was in the car i said i think it would be safer if we both left our weapons holstered but he didnt like that at all)
we then get to talking about OCing because i mention how his force constantly harrasses me for OCing and he says its legal but isnt smart then goes to tell me about how id be the first one shot in a bank robbery. i then tell him i OC for comfort educating sheep and numerous other reasons. he got pissed off because i was making sense tells me hes done with the convo and askes the other LEO if he has anythign to say and he says that if im going to OC i need to be aware of my surroundings, i then interrupted him and said since im in teh army and one of the first things they teach us in the army is situational awareness i think ill be ok. he said alright just be careful and sent me on my way. the end. so much more but im done typing.
i was stopped on 7/24/2012 for a seat belt, i told the officer i had my fnx .40 on my side he seemed to freak out called for back up had 3 squad cars behind me and he repeatedly asked me for my gun telling me he was going to call the prosecutor and get the prosecutor to back him up. i told him abouty TERRY V. Ohio and he said the it didnt matter due to officer safety i knew he was lieng but gave him my firearm because he was verrrry angry and was worried of an "AD" on his part.
he took my weapon called up 2 other squad cars and ran my license as well as my wifes he saw in my wallet (who doesnt have my same last name) he asked me why she had a different last name and i asked if that was a crime and if not it isnt his business.
in my rear view mirror i saw him flipping through a book i can assume is a law book and came back asked me to come to the back of the car to talk to him but made sure to tell me i didnt have to, i obliged because i wanted to get a chance to say what i had to say.
he told me about how he does this for officer safety and tells me about how many cops are killed during traffic stops, i tell him no offense i dont care about officer safety i just want to get home in a timely matter considering im legal have my LTCH am not a felon and am only being stopped for a traffic stop not related to my firearm. (oh by the way the way when he origanally pulled the officer safety thing when i was in the car i said i think it would be safer if we both left our weapons holstered but he didnt like that at all)
we then get to talking about OCing because i mention how his force constantly harrasses me for OCing and he says its legal but isnt smart then goes to tell me about how id be the first one shot in a bank robbery. i then tell him i OC for comfort educating sheep and numerous other reasons. he got pissed off because i was making sense tells me hes done with the convo and askes the other LEO if he has anythign to say and he says that if im going to OC i need to be aware of my surroundings, i then interrupted him and said since im in teh army and one of the first things they teach us in the army is situational awareness i think ill be ok. he said alright just be careful and sent me on my way. the end. so much more but im done typing.