Told by FWPD illegal to OC in Indiana

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

Sorry...figured y'all knew; https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...113-fwpd_takes_weapon_and_isp_pulls_ltch.html

Thanks, JayGee! I want to tag it.

 

[griffin]

How the heck does a n00b with 7 posts get THAT much Rep?

There are people with only a few dozen posts that are practically maxed out. There is a thread over in the off topic area where the sole purpose is for people to just give each other rep every day until they get five golds, five silvers, and five bronzes.

It defeats the entire purpose of the rep system but the mods allow it.

 

[24Carat]

There are people with only a few dozen posts that are practically maxed out. There is a thread over in the off topic area where the sole purpose is for people to just give each other rep every day until they get five golds, five silvers, and five bronzes.

It defeats the entire purpose of the rep system but the mods allow it.

Does that fall under the heading of " Gaming the System " ?

 

[Sgt.Striker]

i like this post. and for you old time posters out there im new to these forums and im not real sure what this reputation system is but just let me say that not all of us noobs are "glory hogs" and we just want to participate in a cool forum that shares our same interests. besides, does it really mean anything to have a bunch of reputation points when you have to cheat to do it? its like having a million friends on FB. in real life it doesnt mean all that much.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

in real life it doesnt mean all that much.

You shut your mouth!

 

[BravoMike]

i like this post. and for you old time posters out there im new to these forums and im not real sure what this reputation system is but just let me say that not all of us noobs are "glory hogs" and we just want to participate in a cool forum that shares our same interests. besides, does it really mean anything to have a bunch of reputation points when you have to cheat to do it? its like having a million friends on FB. in real life it doesnt mean all that much.

1. I just had to rep you for this post!

2. It reminds me of this.

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[Cemetery-man]

I'm surprised the rep system is still used since the rep pyramid made it completely useless unless you like pretty little Christmas ornaments.

 

[Sarge470]

As an update to this thread, the FWPD has just concluded a block of instruction regarding open-carry of guns in its in-service training modules for all personnel, with another session specifically for supervisory personnel. Supervisors were trained on this material in late 2012, and the department-wide in-service training cycle runs through Saturday, 2/2/13. Extensive information regarding Indiana firearm-related statutes was provided to every officer during my session and a pretty thorough discussion was held regarding constitutional issues at both the state and federal level, complete with recent case law concerning carrying of handguns in Indiana. I hope this training will help!

 

[AndersonIN]

^^^^^^^

Thank you!

 

[bsnyder413]

i hear a lot of indiana citizens being harassed for open carry.

 

[24Carat]

Now this proactive approach needs to be disseminated throughout the LE community statewide. Are there any LE Associations that could be approached to help spread the word?

 

[AndersonIN]

i hear a lot of indiana citizens being harassed for open carry.

I wouldn't say a lot by any means............just a few communistic locations that haven't been given remedial training by Guy!

I travel on a regular basis from Delaware/Madison County to Orange Cty without any problems in between.........now I don't often stop in Bloomington but I have before.

 

[rhino]

As an update to this thread, the FWPD has just concluded a block of instruction regarding open-carry of guns in its in-service training modules for all personnel, with another session specifically for supervisory personnel. Supervisors were trained on this material in late 2012, and the department-wide in-service training cycle runs through Saturday, 2/2/13. Extensive information regarding Indiana firearm-related statutes was provided to every officer during my session and a pretty thorough discussion was held regarding constitutional issues at both the state and federal level, complete with recent case law concerning carrying of handguns in Indiana. I hope this training will help!

Good news! Thanks for letting us know. I hope it helps prevent unnecessary problems in the future.

 

[KG1]

As an update to this thread, the FWPD has just concluded a block of instruction regarding open-carry of guns in its in-service training modules for all personnel, with another session specifically for supervisory personnel. Supervisors were trained on this material in late 2012, and the department-wide in-service training cycle runs through Saturday, 2/2/13. Extensive information regarding Indiana firearm-related statutes was provided to every officer during my session and a pretty thorough discussion was held regarding constitutional issues at both the state and federal level, complete with recent case law concerning carrying of handguns in Indiana. I hope this training will help!

Sounds Good. Will there be any accountability built in for any officer that chooses not to adhere to this new instruction? Such as signing off acknowledging that the instruction was received?

There is really no excuse now for any such strong arm coercion tactics concerning the legal carry of a firearm in the State of Indiana based on false information, whether it's done knowingly or through ignorance of the law.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Sounds Good. Will there be any accountability built in for any officer that chooses not to adhere to this new instruction? Such as signing off acknowledging that the instruction was received?

There is really no excuse now for any such strong arm coercion tactics concerning the legal carry of a firearm in the State of Indiana based on false information, whether it's done knowingly or through ignorance of the law.

I wonder if the department/city would then try to use this as an excuse if an officer DOES infringe on Pre-emption. Regardless it won't matter in court and I am very glad the department is taking these steps to protect a citizen's rights it is just too bad it had to come from threat of lawsuit from a well known lawyer.

I hope this is truly a move in the right direction and I am glad at least some municipalities are taking this seriously, Lord knows Evansville still isn't and they are NAMED in one of the lawsuits...

 

[Markedup]

As an update to this thread, the FWPD has just concluded a block of instruction regarding open-carry of guns in its in-service training modules for all personnel, with another session specifically for supervisory personnel.!

Thanks for the update, Sarge.

Mark

 

[BIGnTall83]

WOW... I am glad I ran accross this thread, just today I mailed in the state portion of my LTCH. I live in Auburn (which is only 30mins north of Ft Wayne) I do go to Ft Wayne often. I will keep this in mind if I happen to be approached by un-informed officers.

 

[billybob44]

Welcome in BIG..

WOW... I am glad I ran accross this thread, just today I mailed in the state portion of my LTCH. I live in Auburn (which is only 30mins north of Ft Wayne) I do go to Ft Wayne often. I will keep this in mind if I happen to be approached by un-informed officers.

You will not have to worry for a little while..It's in the mail...HA HA. Bill..

 

[BIGnTall83]

You will not have to worry for a little while..It's in the mail...HA HA. Bill..

Yeah I know, whats it usually take? 2months?

 

[rgrimm01]

What a read, start to finish. I think the resulting action is outstanding. How easy would it have been for FWPD to leave this at the memo stage. It could be argued that they would have done so at a heightened level of exposure to litigation but done none-the-less. Very positive outcome, Kudos to all involved...