Dry fire, doing it and doing it right

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  • IndyGunSafety

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    After a while you should be able to call your shot. It is nice to have verification of your instinct. iMarksman makes an infrared light system for the SIRT pistol. No lasers to be distracted by. This works really well with their full simulator. So you can get some target feedback AFTER the fact, without distraction initially. But there is the cost...

    Another point is just a habit pattern. When dry firing, have a specific target you use. Even if it's a blank sheet of paper to avoid the distractions of having a "target", so you can really focus on the front sight. Get this "target" (or you could call it a background) out and hang it up when it's time to dry fire. Put it away when you are done. Add this mindset habit to the safety checks mentioned by the OP and you should never have a bullet hole in your wall or expensive TV! Try different color pieces of paper and varying light conditions so you get in the habit of adjusting to different light contrast situations quickly.

    I think dry fire is very useful. Very similar to a practice swing in golf or baseball, but much more beneficial. And it's cheap! One of the great advantages to it is after you get the hang of aiming, you can really concentrate on your trigger finger and grip, and add ALL of the fundamentals until they become instinct and muscle memory. One of the biggest problems I see with students is how quickly a flinch or incorrect technique comes back after non practice. You can easily spend a a whole session getting rid of a flinch and then it's time to go home from the range. Then it's two weeks or more before you get back to the range AND THE FLINCH IS BACK! It's another whole session before you can get rid of it. Dry firing is an inexpensive way to prevent this from happening, or at lease mitigate the effects of not going to the range. It's no substitute for the real thing, but it IS another useful tool for development of muscle memory and habit patterns.

    Thanks for posting this. Maybe it isn't as fun as doing the real thing. But it's what you make of it.

    P.S. DON'T DRY FIRE AT YOUR TV, and maintain all of the safety rules even with a SIRT or "cleared" handgun. (Says the fun-sucking safety guy!)
     

    Leo

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    Black headed thumb tack makes a great target point for dry fire.

    Non-live fire practice works, as does any disciplined practice. When I am disciplined and using dry fire or a target grade pellet rifle, my 200 yard offhand scores are in the mid 94 to 96 percent. If I do not practice for a while, they drop to 88 or 89 percent. And I have been shooting that event 20 plus years. Training has to be fresh.

    When training for bullseye pistol, taping two quart bottle of water to your arm and then holding an empty pistol on a target until your whole shoulder aches, repeating this drill for 20 days in a row will pay off with a very stable one hand hold during the next match. It is not fun, or eciting, but it pays off on the score card.

    With any shooting sport, DISCIPLINED practice makes the difference, not just seeing how many rounds you can bang through the firearm.
     
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    rhino

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    I believe they cost as much as a live handgun....

    I think you are correct, and I'll bet access is limited to police and military trainers.

    Of course, having a replica identical to your own gun whose e trigger resets automatically and it won't fire a projectile might be worth it to some people.
     

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    rhino

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    You are very welcome. I have not tried the kit myself but it sounds cool.

    We should find an ingo crash test dummy to take the plunge and buy one. I nominate BBI.


    Sigs reset themselves without kits. Just FYI.

    Well, sure, but how many of us have the three minutes it takes to pull the whole seven yards through that trigger pull each time?
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    We should find an ingo crash test dummy to take the plunge and buy one. I nominate BBI.




    Well, sure, but how many of us have the three minutes it takes to pull the whole seven yards through that trigger pull each time?

    Err, the only thing I'm less likely to spend my money on than a new Glock is a new pretend Glock. So....no.

    As far as trigger pull length, not everyone has vienna sausages for fingers....
     

    Woobie

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    I never enjoyed that DA trigger pull. I know you can train through it though. My next P226 will have an upgraded trigger, to be sure.
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    Dry firing is excellent. Ill have to try this drill. I usually do it starting frim holster vs presented.

    There's certainly nothing wrong with that. I alternate, personally. Some days I start off from the holster, some days I start from extension and work my way back. Doing it in both orders forces you to concentrate on it a bit more and also helps you see if there's anything glitchy with one part of your presentation. Without being videoed and watching yourself in slo-mo, its about the best feedback I've figured out in dry fire so far.
     

    Coach

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    Drive fire needs to be about visual information and feedback. You have to see the sights. You have to be honest about what you are seeing. I favor using targets, doing reloads, involving the draw stroke, doing SHO and WHO shooting as well. Whatever my skill level is; it is where it is because of dry fire.

    I think using SIRT guns for dry fire is a bad move. Especially if you are looking at the laser on the wall instead of your sights. If you are not looking at the laser on the wall then why not use the gun itself? Just do it in an appropriate place.
     

    rhino

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    Has anyone tried one of the computer programs that uses a web cam and SIRT pistol or IR SIRT pistol to provide a target?

    I don't know any details, but I tried one that a guy had setup in the clubhouse before an IDPA match at Wildcat. It was pretty cool.
     
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