Reverting to tribalism?

[DoggyDaddy]

When someone asserts that they have "fibromyalgia," to me they are auto-throwing the bull**** flag. It's especially true when they throw it in with a list of potentially serious, debilitating conditions like psoriatic arthritis or Crohn's.

I know someone with fibromyalgia that I would trust my life to. He works very hard, but he is in constant pain. It ain't no joke.
Scientists Pinpoint Physical Cause of Fibromyalgia Pain

Rob is right. DoggyMama has it and it is definitely real and definitely not a joke.

 

[MuttX7]

When someone asserts that they have "fibromyalgia," to me they are auto-throwing the bull**** flag. It's especially true when they throw it in with a list of potentially serious, debilitating conditions like psoriatic arthritis or Crohn's.

Evidently you must not know someone who has it. My mom was diagnosed with it several years ago and it is not some bull**** disease. While she is retired, she keeps active to try and keep the symptoms at bay. Even so, she still has days where she goes back to bed for awhile because the aches and tiredness are a little more than she can deal with at the time. She also said she hopes you get it but I don't think she meant it because she is not really that mean of a person.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Evidently you must not know someone who has it.

for him to say that means he probably does. I'd say 95% of the patients I see with "fibromyalgia" diagnosis have numerous other mental health problems, usually do not work or are "disabled" (read SSI and Medicare at 40).

whether it is real or not, the diagnosis has been ruined. I feel it is a subtype of depression, and should never ever be treated with narcotics

 

[jamil]

Some people will go to great lengths not to work. Years ago I knew a guy who intentionally got himself injured in a work "accident" sohe could go on disability. I'm not surprised people would pretend to have a disease so they can get the privilege we give to disabled people.

And it's kinda in vogue to claime you have something you don't have. Like "gluten intolerance". It's not that these conditions don't exist, it's that people say they have it when they don't, and that just flies in the face of people who really do have them.

 

[MuttX7]

for him to say that means he probably does. I'd say 95% of the patients I see with "fibromyalgia" diagnosis have numerous other mental he health problems, usually do not work or are "disabled" (read SSI and Medicare at 40).

whether it is real or not, the diagnosis has been ruined

I guess maybe I should change that to someone who really has the disease. My mom was diagnosed back in the late 90s. She worked until I.U. offered a round of buy-outs that was too good to pass up. She never thought about applying for disability. I think I get what you are saying about the diagnosis. I know some people who get disability and it seems that the only thing they cannot do is work ( mainly because they don't want to ).

 

[RMC]

I think we should all meet at the next Indy 1500 and compare scars.

 

[MuttX7]

Some people will go to great lengths not to work. Years ago I knew a guy who intentionally got himself injured in a work "accident" sohe could go on disability. I'm not surprised people would pretend to have a disease so they can get the privilege we give to disabled people.

And it's kinda in vogue to claime you have something you don't have. Like "gluten intolerance". It's not that these conditions don't exist, it's that people say they have it when they don't, and that just flies in the face of people who really do have them.

For some reason, your post made me think of the Kids in the Hall skit about compensation:

[video=youtube;gkwL8QOYWbk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkwL8QOYWbk[/video]

 

[BugI02]

Divide and conquer. Not a new concept yet surprisingly effective and disappointingly easy to pull off in this country. We stopped being a real nation years ago, just a bunch of individuals sharing the same big chunk of real estate now.

The good news is it'll probably improve once China or Russia invades.

Wolverines!!!


ETA: Massively scooped by Leadeye (as it should be)

 

[indiucky]

Some people will go to great lengths not to work.

I hear you man...I went so far as to open a gun shop....

 

[BugI02]

And roundabouts. Don't forget the roundabouts.

Yep. If you want to see how that particular fetshism ends, come into Sedona, AZ from the south on 179. In Oak Creek there is a roundabout at every single ****ing cross street. Any traffic at all and it's worse than stop signs because; people

 

[indiucky]

I think we should all meet at the next Indy 1500 and compare scars.

I would win...Seriously..Ruptured intestine...Sceptic...I got a big old scar from my "belly bag" and the vertical one from just north of Johnson with a loop around the belly button...They are hideous...Surgeon said, "Yeah man...It was an emergency surgery...I did what I had to do and if you want I can clean them up for you..." I said, "Are you kidding? This is my mountain lion attack scars...Plus, no offense but I don't want a blade anywhere near my stomach for a long damn time..."

Wife likes the scars and that's all that matters....

They look so good I carved them into the fake ivory grips on my K 22 Combat masterpiece...

Seriously...

 

[foszoe]

As a Christian, I shouldn't go around judging other people. If someone has a parking permit, then assume they need it and let it go! I take it as an occasion to offer a prayer for that person and give thanks especially since I don't need one! I also thank God that I can offer that prayer because 20 years ago I couldn't. I would be Jealous that they get to park so close and i had to walk all the way from the last row. How selfish is that? 15 years ago, God at least let me see that jealousy and narrowmindedness for what it is.

Its a good thing too because 6 years ago, I married someone with an autoimmune disorder, scleroderma. With that came the placard. Now, when I am with my wife, I get to park in the front row and walk right in. In this case, I wish it was me and not her because I sometimes see the suffering. Other people, unless they are real observant, won't notice that anything is "wrong". That is the difficult part of all of these situations. People suffer in ways we can't see or sense so we make judgments.

I eat dinner in 15-30 minutes. She takes an 45-60 because her esophagus doesn't contract to force the food down like a normal person. She sometimes runs to the bathroom the throw up because the stomach back pressure overcomes gravity. 2 hours later I see her still chewing because food comes back up sporadically for 2-3 hours. If we eat at 7, she will be up until 1 am trying to keep it down at times.

We use the placard mostly in winter. When we do, my wife jumps out of the car and runs inside. I know what people think when they see that because I once thought the same thing. Sometimes they are even kind enough to let me know how they feel.

Another side effect of this disease is poor circulation. Just a few moments in the cold can trigger a Reynauld's attack that can take hours to recover from, but they don't know that. They just say insensitive things because of what they see for a few brief seconds. They don't see my wife's friend who has lost both legs to the disease due to circulation problems. They aren't around when she is wearing winter coats in the 60s. They weren't there when I bought Artic gear (rated sub zero) for her just so she could walk outside for the first time in over a decade and play in the snow in the 30s. They don't see the extra 15 minutes of time it takes her to get dressed in her layers and heated gear for the Saturday afternoon football game.

Are there people who fake? I guess we can all debate the question if we choose. For me the question is "Do I care if some do?" and the answer is no. All that I control is myself. If the system is taken advantage of, I don't have to answer for anyone's actions but my own.

 

[IndyDave1776]

When someone asserts that they have "fibromyalgia," to me they are auto-throwing the bull**** flag. It's especially true when they throw it in with a list of potentially serious, debilitating conditions like psoriatic arthritis or Crohn's.

I would have to point out that an ailment the quantification of such is much like determining how happy a person is or is not. You also have a random variable in a given person's tolerance to pain. You can have one person who is experiencing pain to the point of being unable to function, one who hurts like a SOB but still functions, and one making it up completely, and no way to objectively measure any of them. This leads to the question of how in the universe you separate out people who are have a serious problem from those who exaggerate and outright liars. I certainly hate to think that people in pain would be treated like hypochondriacs or liars because they have the bad fortune to have an ailment that does not come with an objective measurement and relies entirely on the word of the patient.

 

[MisterChester]

Saying that "God told me to do something" doesn't mean jack. The man is clearly a lazy, petty human being that is willing to put his income in jeopardy out of a misplaced sense of self-righteousness.

 

[NIGHTRIDER]

Saying that "God told me to do something" doesn't mean jack. The man is clearly a lazy, petty human being that is willing to put his income in jeopardy out of a misplaced sense of self-righteousness.

Your right.He should have went for the big bucks and charged her double.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

They look so good I carved them into the fake ivory grips on my K 22 Combat masterpiece...

Seriously...

There's nothing like having a gun with a real story behind it. I imagine that gun ending up in somebody's collection 80 years from now, and them trying to figure out exactly what that carving is suppose to be.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I hear you man...I went so far as to open a gun shop....

Is it near the museum?

 

[rhino]

for him to say that means he probably does. I'd say 95% of the patients I see with "fibromyalgia" diagnosis have numerous other mental health problems, usually do not work or are "disabled" (read SSI and Medicare at 40).

whether it is real or not, the diagnosis has been ruined. I feel it is a subtype of depression, and should never ever be treated with narcotics

You are correct (about me knowing people with the diagnosis) and you clearly understand what I meant.

Your professional experience mirrors my educated layman's observations of more than a few people.

I also agree with your opinion of the root cause, which is supported by successful treatment for many with anti-depressants and drugs with similar mechanisms.

 

[rhino]

I would win...Seriously..Ruptured intestine...Sceptic...I got a big old scar from my "belly bag" and the vertical one from just north of Johnson with a loop around the belly button...They are hideous...Surgeon said, "Yeah man...It was an emergency surgery...I did what I had to do and if you want I can clean them up for you..." I said, "Are you kidding? This is my mountain lion attack scars...Plus, no offense but I don't want a blade anywhere near my stomach for a long damn time..."

Wife likes the scars and that's all that matters....

They look so good I carved them into the fake ivory grips on my K 22 Combat masterpiece...

Seriously...

Amateur! I have a scar around the entire circumference of my lower torso. THAT is a big scar.

 

[BugI02]

How does that happen? Rolling about in a pile of sharp objects? I always thought people were exaggerating about your unique relationship with blades