Glocks hold value.. WHY?!?!?

[led4thehed2]

I don't think all used GLOCKs can be sold for nearly new prices. As others have mentioned, the 40 S&W has certainly declined in popularity or popular taste recently, so those models depreciate a bit more normally. The 9mm GLOCKs sure hold their value though. To me, it's a $500-ish gun that should last you a life time with minimal need for care, parts can easily and inexpensively be purchased and swapped, and the reputation for reliability is at the top of the heap for an auto loader. How isn't that worth $500? Seems like a hell of a bargain to me. Sure, similar models sell for less but an XD is darn heavy for its size (and surprisingly have never found their way into LEO hands, not that I've seen) and I am still not very trusting of the M&P line as they were maligned with feeding issues with they first appeared (right around the time I was buying my first GLOCK) and I had an M&P Shield that jammed more than all of my other guns combined. Ever. I didn't trust it. Had to sell it. And, after all, GLOCK just has brand name recognition. People might not know any thing else, but they recognize the name GLOCK and know it means "guns".

In summary, my 0.02:
Reliable
Minimal care
Life time of use
Brand recognition

Now someone stop me from buying a G17 LEO trade-in for $300! Want. So. Bad.....

 

[223 Gunner]

Gentlemen I keep seeing this 50 comments post nonsense and I want to make things very clear, that is not why I'm here. And really I think its a silly rule for this very reason. It instills the mindset that people race for the 50 just to buy/sell guns. Not saying some don't! But for gods sake drop it because it really kills the buzz of the ones that do want to participate. The real reason I'm here is for the gunsmithing and some legal info. Quite frankly I really haven't seen anything to my liking on the classifieds anyways. Most likely that will only happen once in a blue moon. Someone that knows me personally such as Indiucky knows I have a very particular taste in firearms. I have all the new stuff that every shop just about carries anymore so really it takes the old or the one off stuff to catch my eye. I find a lot of beauty in a firearm that has complex mechanics good or bad because of the mind it took to think up something like that.

That being said 223 Gunner challenging me to lead by example in selling my current glocks I own probably wont happen for the simple reason I never sell. I'm in the triple digits on guns for that very reason. Also I've never paid over $350 for one for LNIB. Ones I've purchased only had a single mag through them and were only in the original owners possession for about a month at the longest. Now as far as buying goes no I will not pay the price. I have already wrote the G code program for an aluminum lower that I'll make in a CNC. The slide I'll just do it on the manual machines. I'll have a plastic free glock for half the price of a store bought.

So for those that posted the "well don't buy one if you don't like the price" comments. I wont, I'll make one.
Those that posted comments that were actually thought out and showed some form of intelligence, especially the gentleman that posted the graph. Bravo! Hats off to you!

First of all I am not accusing you of being a "runner" trying to get to 50. As you know it is a rule of the forum, not one that I created, just pointing out that you won't be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast.
Please post pics of your "home made" "Glock" once it's done, would love to see it!

Second, put your money where your mouth is: If you want to criticize people selling their used guns for what you feel is "too much", post your used firearms cheap and loose your hard earned money.
I bet your buddy that owns the gun store doesn't sell his stuff at "give away" prices.

I tend to not associate or hang around people that want to tell me how great they are.
I think Kelly In Avon hit it on the head about humility, you may be 27, I'm 52, probably know more about the gun market in general based on my age and experience. I've been in this hobby, buying, selling and trading since I was 16.

I had a long time member years ago accuse me of pricing my stuff "too high", never called him out on it, and won't now.
I did take the time to look through EVERY one of his feedback's, and noticed that he NEVER, not even once sold any of his stuff for a "deal".

I have noticed that most people making that accusation are either broke and A$$ hurt because they can't afford guns they really want, or they are just too cheap to do so. I'm not implying that you are, just a general observation from years of buying, selling, and trading. I worked the Indy 1500 for a few years as well, have been to my share of gun shows, and have yet too see that real bargain. It only happens when someone has something, that they really don't know it's true value. Not too often if they have access to the internet and know how to do a google search, they should know it's value.

This type of conversation seems to pop up over and over on this forum.
A good example of the "market" on this forum, is another long time member had some M1A G.I. mags for a fair price, I considered them, then thought to myself, I already have about 20 G.I. mags myself that I'm not using.
So I never sent him a PM.
They ran on here a long time, never selling. https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/parts-accessories/442886-wts-usgi-m14-magazines.html

He finally posted them on Arfcom and they sold almost instantly. Yet ran on here since Sept. I know on Arf he did state a cheaper price if you bought most or all of them.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/WTS-USGI-M14-Magazines/134-1739243/

Back on point, used guns and desirable accessories hold their value. This is the only hobby I know of where you can get most of your money back on a used item. The market is different in different locations in Indiana, here in Indy there is a larger market and it is easier to sell for a higher price, than maybe Jasonville.
It is also much easier here in Indy to find those harder to find items than in other locations.

So welcome to INGO, there is a lot of good information on here.

 

[doddg]

I don't think all used GLOCKs can be sold for nearly new prices. As others have mentioned, the 40 S&W has certainly declined in popularity or popular taste recently, so those models depreciate a bit more normally. The 9mm GLOCKs sure hold their value though. To me, it's a $500-ish gun that should last you a life time with minimal need for care, parts can easily and inexpensively be purchased and swapped, and the reputation for reliability is at the top of the heap for an auto loader. How isn't that worth $500? Seems like a hell of a bargain to me. Sure, similar models sell for less but an XD is darn heavy for its size (and surprisingly have never found their way into LEO hands, not that I've seen) and I am still not very trusting of the M&P line as they were maligned with feeding issues with they first appeared (right around the time I was buying my first GLOCK) and I had an M&P Shield that jammed more than all of my other guns combined. Ever. I didn't trust it. Had to sell it. And, after all, GLOCK just has brand name recognition. People might not know any thing else, but they recognize the name GLOCK and know it means "guns".

In summary, my 0.02:
Reliable
Minimal care
Life time of use
Brand recognition

Now someone stop me from buying a G17 LEO trade-in for $300! Want. So. Bad.....

1. Never seen a Glock for $300: I want one now.
2. I had not read about the M & P feeding issues or I would have been gun-shy (puns intended).
3. Does that apply to the Shields (you realize I will sell all my Shields and buy Sigs or Glocks, depending on your answer?
4. Your list "in summary" is my list as well, except the "life time use:" too early to tell with me, I might gravitate toward an whole other brand direction as I educate myself.

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

1. Never seen a Glock for $300: I want one now.
2. I had not read about the M & P feeding issues or I would have been gun-shy (puns intended).
3. Does that apply to the Shields (you realize I will sell all my Shields and buy Sigs or Glocks, depending on your answer?
4. Your list "in summary" is my list as well, except the "life time use:" too early to tell with me, I might gravitate toward an whole other brand direction as I educate myself.

...come to the dark side young padawan.

 

[snapping turtle]

Used to buy Glocks for the bug out box. Gen 1 45 gen 2 40 gen 3 17 they just got a box of ammo or two and the holster they came with (used) they were rarely shot. So when it came time to get some extra cash for say a xmas present or extra money for a kids car it was always easy to pull it from the action packet and sell it off. No real personal attachment to it just a tool. (The bug out box has a very nice amount of equipment stored in it.)

There is a Glock 45 ACP in the box now. 100 rounds and two mags full. Box holster basically waiting for the end of the world. Now add in the fact that the smith model 66 will most likely still be on my hip at the end of the world or my end of this world it is a near prefect back up at less than the price of any other gun I would trust to get out once ever few years and do a function test on. Slap a little slide lube on it shoot of two mags and refill. Rinse lather repeat. I will admit I like the 45 a bit better than the 9 mm.

That said the one glock that is in the safe is a 17L. It comes out to play much more as a range toy. I have emotional attachment to it.

Are they worth 50 less used than new. Depends. Is a 870 shotgun worth 50 less used than new. Depends. Both most likely have around the same amounts on the used market. Millions of them made. To many to be a collector item. To good a gun to be overlooked. I will admit I love having an extra no emotional attachment firearm around an a glock seems to be something that many people want or will look at in trade if they get say the great uncles benchrest rifle in the will. They won’t take advantage of the bench gun but will take a good trade for a glock. Like others said brand name and the fact that the cops use them.

I am not a glock lover or hater. I will also say like the 870 shotgun that when it comes down to something I think of as being a great gun to have they make a stron showing in quality verses price.

 

[doddg]

First of all I am not accusing you of being a "runner" trying to get to 50. As you know it is a rule of the forum, not one that I created, just pointing out that you won't be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast.
Please post pics of your "home made" "Glock" once it's done, would love to see it!

Second, put your money where your mouth is: If you want to criticize people selling their used guns for what you feel is "too much", post your used firearms cheap and loose your hard earned money.
I bet your buddy that owns the gun store doesn't sell his stuff at "give away" prices.

I tend to not associate or hang around people that want to tell me how great they are.
I think Kelly In Avon hit it on the head about humility, you may be 27, I'm 52, probably know more about the gun market in general based on my age and experience. I've been in this hobby, buying, selling and trading since I was 16.

I had a long time member years ago accuse me of pricing my stuff "too high", never called him out on it, and won't now.
I did take the time to look through EVERY one of his feedback's, and noticed that he NEVER, not even once sold any of his stuff for a "deal".

I have noticed that most people making that accusation are either broke and A$$ hurt because they can't afford guns they really want, or they are just too cheap to do so. I'm not implying that you are, just a general observation from years of buying, selling, and trading. I worked the Indy 1500 for a few years as well, have been to my share of gun shows, and have yet too see that real bargain. It only happens when someone has something, that they really don't know it's true value. Not too often if they have access to the internet and know how to do a google search, they should know it's value.

This type of conversation seems to pop up over and over on this forum.
A good example of the "market" on this forum, is another long time member had some M1A G.I. mags for a fair price, I considered them, then thought to myself, I already have about 20 G.I. mags myself that I'm not using.
So I never sent him a PM.
They ran on here a long time, never selling. https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/parts-accessories/442886-wts-usgi-m14-magazines.html

He finally posted them on Arfcom and they sold almost instantly. Yet ran on here since Nov. I know on Arf he did state a cheaper price if you bought most or all of them.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/WTS-USGI-M14-Magazines/134-1739243/

Back on point, used guns and desirable accessories hold their value. This is the only hobby I know of where you can get most of your money back on a used item. The market is different in different locations in Indiana, here in Indy there is a larger market and it is easier to sell for a higher price, than maybe Jasonville.
It is also much easier here in Indy to find those harder to find items than in other locations.

So welcome to INGO, there is a lot of good information on here.

1. Hey, Gunner, I recognize your moniker (only recognize about 5 ), perhaps I've even bought a gun off you, I can't keep it all straight.
2. Been following this thread and thought you comments were informative.
3. It is amazing to me that an ad will run here for months? I would assume they would keep lowering the price till it sold, or they are not serious about needing to sell and are just "hoping" to snag someone, especially when I can go to Hoosier Armory or Marksman Shooting Sports and buy the same new for cheaper or only a little more.
4. There have been guns I would have bought here (or Armslist), but after checking new prices, I just go buy new, or not buy at all since I can get new anytime so no hurry, and I might get lucky with a lower price in used (happens all the time, my Smith SD9VE being a prime example).
5. I will see the same used gun vary in price by $150, and that is just in the $250 - $400 range: I expect that in the $1000 guns (Kimber, Dan Wesson, Ruger 1911s as an example).

 

[OutdoorDad]

If you’re running to 50, you’re doing a poor job.

1) shorter posts; like “yeah”, “I agree”, or “9mm for me” work best.
2) involve yourself in several threads in different forums so the mods don’t catch you and knock down your count for quality.

But since you’re obviously here for the conversation, I have no idea what the deal is with glocks.
I wouldn’t own one on a dare.

Maybe the used ones are in demand because everyone wants to modify them with a soldering iron. And there is a build in emotional aversion to ruining something new?

BTW, what’s your favorite caliber? (see above for a potential runner response).

 

[doddg]

...come to the dark side young padawan.

1. I openly laughed out loud at that one.
2. B/C of the pic I recognized who you were, also!

 

[indiucky]

I bet your buddy that owns the gun store doesn't sell his stuff at "give away" prices.

I try to be $50 less than completed gunbroker auctions...Due to the large amount of trading I do I am often able to sell stuff (in the words of more than one INGOer) at "give away" prices...And I don't know about calling my shop a "gun store"....BBI says I have a museum that sells guns in the gift shop...

Interesting story about the OP...(Whom I've known since he was a baby).....He played football for Montana State and once, for a day or two, had a Mountain Lion as a roommate....

Seriously.....

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

If you're a friend of Rick's you must be good people.

 

[SPOOK331945]

Please post pics of your "home made" "Glock" once it's done, would love to see it!

Second, put your money where your mouth is: If you want to criticize people selling their used guns for what you feel is "too much", post your used firearms cheap and loose your hard earned money.

I tend to not associate or hang around people that want to tell me how great they are.

1. I will be more that happy to post pics of my work. Now this is not a glock obviously not my design either but something fairly simple to build I’ve been playing with in my free time. Essentially a “bolt together lower.” Now as this has came together honestly I really don’t think it’s going to work that well haha. Due to the fact the design is missing things like the safety detent/spring hole and a couple other features. Will it work? Yes I’d say so, either way it’s been a fun experiment. Most likely build another with some revision changes. More I think about it (well this morning anyways) a steel frame instead of aluminum would allow me to put a color case Hardening finish on the whole firearm. That would be very neat.



2. Now let me ask you this. If I loose my hard earned money and put my money where my mouth is. Will you be one that follows suit?

3. I don’t think I ever really implied “how great I was” I’m decent at what I do and yes I have accomplished a lot by my age. Two 4 year degrees one including a Masters, pilot, Tool Maker (they offer an associates degree that only requires 10 more credit hours I might do I don’t know) but great? No. If people want to think I’m riding a high horse about it so be it. I spent a lot of time and money to accomplish all that and I promise you no will take that away from me. Someone asked to “enlighten them on my engineering manufacturing background” I answered. An answer obviously they probably weren’t expecting. As far as all that goes I may not have the “years” but I would consider that a good amount of exposure in a lot of areas. And by all means don’t associate yourself with me. It’s your choice, I’m not upset about it either way. And most 50 year olds might think I sound arrogant on here but if you met me in person I promise you wouldn’t think that. Age and experience is a huge factor to every aspect but don’t let it make you stubborn and think the all younger ones are just arrogant and unknowing. Never know you might learn something from the young one. God that’s a conversation I have with my father quite often lol. In this thread I did learn something. I learned to look at the market demand and how it controls pricing. Something that I haven’t Really taken into consideration since I become tunnel visioned on the mechanical side of things and what it would take to make.

 

[SPOOK331945]

If you’re running to 50, you’re doing a poor job.

1) shorter posts; like “yeah”, “I agree”, or “9mm for me” work best.
2) involve yourself in several threads in different forums so the mods don’t catch you and knock down your count for quality.

But since you’re obviously here for the conversation, I have no idea what the deal is with glocks.
I wouldn’t own one on a dare.

Maybe the used ones are in demand because everyone wants to modify them with a soldering iron. And there is a build in emotional aversion to ruining something new?

BTW, what’s your favorite caliber? (see above for a potential runner response).

You would think they would make that correlation in the amount I've been typing.

I hate when someone does their "custom grip" on them.. What a hack job lol

My favorite caliber I would say is the .45 ACP (if we're talking handguns).

 

[littletommy]

I try to be $50 less than completed gunbroker auctions...Due to the large amount of trading I do I am often able to sell stuff (in the words of more than one INGOer) at "give away" prices...And I don't know about calling my shop a "gun store"....BBI says I have a museum that sells guns in the gift shop...

Interesting story about the OP...(Whom I've known since he was a baby).....He played football for Montana State and once, for a day or two, had a Mountain Lion as a roommate....

Seriously.....

I think I’ve met OP! Somebody was showing me pics of a pet mountain lion just a week or so ago.

 

[indiucky]

I think I’ve met OP! Somebody was showing me pics of a pet mountain lion just a week or so ago.

It was a wild one...I'll let lil' spook tell the story...Now to be fair the Mountain Lion was staying in the garage...

 

[SPOOK331945]

I think I’ve met OP! Somebody was showing me pics of a pet mountain lion just a week or so ago.

I can promise you that roommate/pet was NOT intended...

 

[littletommy]

It was a wild one...I'll let lil' spook tell the story...Now to be fair the Mountain Lion was staying in the garage...

Ohhhh. Seriously, I can’t remember who it was, somebody in the range, was showing me pictures of a pet mountain lion they had a few years back. They were sitting on the couch with it!

 

[littletommy]

I can promise you that roommate/pet was NOT intended...

Lol!

 

[wtburnette]

I hate when someone does their "custom grip" on them.. What a hack job lol

I have to agree with that. I absolutely hate the look of stippling and I don't like the feel of it either. Talk about lowering the value of a gun. I do, however, realize some people like it and just have to say, to each their own...

 

[indiucky]

Lil' Spook's got an old man soul...Just like his dad...

I could tell some of his dad and mine's running stories back in the '80's but this is a family forum.....

He's a good young man....Every time he comes in it's like seeing his old man 30 years ago...Hence the name "lil' Spook".....

 

[SPOOK331945]

Lil' Spook's got an old man soul...Just like his dad...

I could tell some of his dad and mine's running stories back in the '80's but this is a family forum.....

He's a good young man....Every time he comes in it's like seeing his old man 30 years ago...Hence the name "lil' Spook".....

Thank you brother