☆ New Smith & Wesson Response PCC

[DadSmith]

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/response

 

[derrickgoins]

Was on the livestream announcement (M&P fan boy here). Cool concept, but they probably could've just released at / around the same time as the FPC given it's a carbine length PCC. That said, I was kind of a hoping for a metal M&P compact lineup so might be a little biased that direction.

 

[Benjamin]

I still can’t get around the mag well with the small 9mm mag. It just doesn’t look right to me. I’ve always had this problem with the AR9 or ARish pistol platforms they just don’t look right. To each his own.

To me it’s an ugly gun.

 

[Simon6101]

Cool Entry. I was hoping they would do a 22 mag rifle to go with the new handgun. Definitely a cool design with changeable mag wells

 

[Ark]

Meh. Another AR9.

 

[marvin02]

Darn it, another one to add to my list.

Just watched all the videos I could find on YouTube on this. It's basically an AR9 with a magwell that can be changed.

The magwell design looks like it can accommodate a wider variety of options than the Ruger PC Carbine since it is not constrained by being in the receiver.

The AR compatibility will certainly attract some people. Julie Golob has a video about the Response out and she stated that the stock, grip and trigger are compatible with AR parts.

From what I've seen the trigger is tuned more to competition than self defense at 2 1/2 pounds. That seems to be about as light as you can go on a blowback 9 without doubling.

I'm sure the fact that it is largely a polymer gun will turn off some folks.

The hand guard and barrel look as if they are derived from the FPC.

Unlike the FPC the grip is equal to a full size M&P, but since the magazine isn't in the grip it doesn't effect the ability of the Response to take M&P compact mags.

Looks like it's another rabbit hole to fall down to research this one.

 

[gregkl]

Is the FPC mostly polymer also?

 

[nucular]

Oh look, another 9mm direct blowback AR

 

[marvin02]

Is the FPC mostly polymer also?

Yes. The Response is a different category. The FPC is a foldable backpack gun, the lightweight construction matches it's use profile. The Response is a full size modern sporting rifle doesn't have light weight as a required feature.

I suspect the construction material is based as much in cost as it is on weight.

 

[Peacekeeper3073]

Looks like a pretty good carbine. Going to wait and see some hands on reviews from the regular crowd. If good may be my next purchase. Taking Glock mags is a big plus too since I have a bunch of Glock and M&P mags. Choice is always nice.

 

[mcapo]

Nice product, I am sure it will be popular.

Call me when its not all plastic....

Just my personally preference. I am sure that the lightweight of the polymer material has appeal over metal to a market segment.

 

[SmileDocHill]

Was on the livestream announcement (M&P fan boy here). Cool concept, but they probably could've just released at / around the same time as the FPC given it's a carbine length PCC. That said, I was kind of a hoping for a metal M&P compact lineup so might be a little biased that direction.

Another s&w fanboy in Westfield! CZickness step aside, I think its time for a S&W range day!
I have the mnp metal. The metal part has no advantages other than esthetics but I'm loving the trigger.

 

[nipprdog]

if they offer this in the folding lineup,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[zachcz]

Did they just steal from Keltec again and it’s multi mag 9mm blow back carbine that’s been around forever

 

[marvin02]

Did they just steal from Keltec again and it’s multi mag 9mm blow back carbine that’s been around forever

Did Keltec steal from Colt? From what I can find Colt made an AR9 in 1982. Kel-Tec was founded in 1991.

Colt 9mm SMG - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Evolution of the 9mm AR Carbine – Small Arms Defense Journal

sadefensejournal.com

Don't all AR style rifles including blowback 9mm carbines with AR style controls owe a tip of the hat to Armalite?

The Complete History of the AR-15 Rifle | Small Wars Journal

The history of this iconic American weapon, from its inception in 1959 to the present day.

smallwarsjournal.com

Yup - this is another Ar-9, blowback 9mm. It has common AR style controls, can be adapted to multiple magazines, and is made in the US.

Having options is a good thing. S&W may be following a trend by releasing two 9mm PCCs but they are offering another source for a popular firearm. It is a better situation than having fewer options.

I'm hoping that they expand to other calibers and offer more mag adapters.

 

[Simon6101]

Mine has been ordered and will be here the first of the week.

 

[IN New Guy]

Mine has been ordered and will be here the first of the week.

Great! Please wring it out and give us a range report. I'd think a lot of people would be interested in what you have to say about it.

 

[gregkl]

Yes. The Response is a different category. The FPC is a foldable backpack gun, the lightweight construction matches it's use profile. The Response is a full size modern sporting rifle doesn't have light weight as a required feature.

I suspect the construction material is based as much in cost as it is on weight.

I’m fine with my polymer AR style .22. Not so sure about 9mm in a rifle.

Is it any different than having a polymer handgun? I don’t have any issues with those.

 

[SouthernStar25]

Another s&w fanboy in Westfield! CZickness step aside, I think its time for a S&W range day!
I have the mnp metal. The metal part has no advantages other than esthetics but I'm loving the trigger.

Makes three of us. M&P M2.0s + an Apex Trigger = Complete Bliss.

 

[marvin02]

A user on smith-wessonforum.com has posted pics of the internals in a thread in the long gun sub-forum.