400 Yard 1911......Whatcha think?

[paperboy]

Karl Lippard - Military Firearms Design & Manufacturing :: Introducing the 1911A2 Combat NCO

 

[DRob]

Yikes

I'd be interested in seeing how much a .45 ACP drops at 400 yards. Never mind the 650 mentioned! I'm thinking one-minute-of-5-story-building!

 

[jeremy]

I am thinking at 400+ yards it is more like a Mortar...

 

[halfmileharry]

Optomistic advertising.
Not that you can't get a .45acp to make the distance but that's a 1/2 second travel time.
I have better weapons choices than my beloved 1911s for distances in that range.

 

[Dave Doehrman]

I'd be interested in seeing how much a .45 ACP drops at 400 yards. Never mind the 650 mentioned! I'm thinking one-minute-of-5-story-building!

I plugged in a 250gr bullet moving at 820 fps and zeroed in at 35 yards.
At 400 yards it would drop 459 inches (38.25 feet) and you would need 110 MOA elevation. I'd have to see someone shoot that weapon without adjusting the sights as the article stated.

 

[paperboy]

I plugged in a 250gr bullet moving at 820 fps and zeroed in at 35 yards.
At 400 yards it would drop 459 inches (38.25 feet) and you would need 110 MOA elevation. I'd have to see someone shoot that weapon without adjusting the sights as the article stated.

Exactly what I was thinking......

 

[Mosinguy]

$5,000 for a 1911?!

 

[ghuns]

I saw one of those impossible shots shows a while back where Jerry Miculek was popping balloons with a stubby Smith at insane distances. Took him a couple to get on target, then he couldn't miss. Don't think he ever got to 400 yards though, more like 200. He was also probably shooting .357 so his hold over was only like 20 feet instead of 40. Nothin to it.

If Jerry can do it with a crappy little Smith, I'm sure any schmuck can do it with a superior weapon like the 1911.

 

[Airborne33]

Even trying to hit a 100 yard torso sized target with my 1911 seems to be about an impossible feat. The bullet drop seems completely unpredictable. Luck is about the only factor on my side.

 

[sporter]

Even trying to hit a 100 yard torso sized target with my 1911 seems to be about an impossible feat. The bullet drop seems completely unpredictable. Luck is about the only factor on my side.

On two different outings a shooting buddy and myself were trying to hit a chest size steel plate @ 122 yards.

First time out I was able to hit the plate several times (several misses) from a G34 w/russian ammo.

Last time out I could not hit the plate at the same distance to save my life.
Buddy of mine was able to hit the said plate this last time with his gen 4 34 several times (and hit it with a Sig 1911/22).

Another friend was able to ding it with a Ruger 22.

Long distance pistol with iron sights is not easy. The rounds can be close then way off............way off!

 

[Hogwylde]

Even trying to hit a 100 yard torso sized target with my 1911 seems to be about an impossible feat. The bullet drop seems completely unpredictable. Luck is about the only factor on my side.

I was taught in the Marines that hitting a torso sized target with a 1911 is easy. All you do is imagine the person holding up their arm straight up and aiming for their hand. The bullet drop at 100 yards will hit the target in the center of the chest with that amount of holdover.

Of course, I've never actually done it or tried it. But, I've seen the training info to do it.

 

[netsecurity]

It also claims 650y with "instruction".

 

[jeremy]

It also claims 650y with "instruction".

It should say 650 yards with the optional Base Plate...

 

[dukeboy_318]

I just don't see it happening. Any amount of wind in between the target and the shooter is going to wreck havoc on the shot.

 

[Hookeye]

They did it for 9mm

 

[Airborne33]

+1 to anyone who can consistently hit 100m target with their 1911. I am in no way a professional shooter like some of you most likely are. IMO if I have time to try to walk in rounds at 100m with a 1911 I probably have time to find a rifle or escape the situation.

Aside from screwing around at the range, I'll spend my time practicing engaging the right target with the right firearm. About the best you can do at 100m in real life is lay suppressive fire.

 

[Tamara]

"A ____ and his _____ soon are ______." Fill in the blanks. Ready? Go!

(I am vaguely insulted by being asked to pay $5,000 from somebody who uses drop-in beavertails in the guns in the ad photo. Before you put your '84 Trans Am in the Auto Trader, Cletus, at least take the space-saver spare off of it.)

 

[.356luger]

I plugged in a 250gr bullet moving at 820 fps and zeroed in at 35 yards.
At 400 yards it would drop 459 inches (38.25 feet) and you would need 110 MOA elevation. I'd have to see someone shoot that weapon without adjusting the sights as the article stated.

im not sure where you are getting your info my ballistic calculomater says this: 600yds, 609fps, 206ft-lbs, path -1094" im not saying you are wrong im just trying to validate my calculomater and yes that is how it is pronounced and spelled when its shade tree.

 

[Hookeye]

I didn't know they made a Trans Am after '76

 

[BlueEagle]

Yeah, thats totally not absurd or anything.