Welp ended up going with one of these. After all the review Ive read on these an it feels awesome in the hand. My LGS had one in stock today when I was out looking an for the $ I couldn't pass it up and even had a houge grip on it already with 2 mags. Its a little heavier than I was wanting but for the way it feels and the reliability of these pistols I can deal with it. (not to mention I just like steel guns).