60 Minutes "Soverign Citizens"

[dreingar]

Anyone see tonight's story on 60 Minutes about Soverign Citizen and the inherent dangers? It was skewed to make the entire movement appear to be a bunch of Violent wackos, no surprise. I'd be interested in hearing from the forum.
If you didn't see, here's the link:
60 Minutes - Interviews, Profiles & Reports - CBS News

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

 

[K_W]

Typical.

 

[rjstew317]

 

[03mustgt]

I did not watch it, but I have heard of several instances of Sovereign Citizens either Killing, or advocating for the killing of LEO's. Yeah, the entire movement is a bunch of violent wacko's, just like every LEO is dirty and wants to violate all your past, present, and future rights.

 

[rambone]

Sovereign citizens are listed on the FBI's top terror threats. Did ya hear that? They even called them "paper terrorists" for filing lawsuits against the government. How hard would it be for any of us to get this label?

If you believe that you were born free and that you don't need to be numbered at birth, then you'll be grouped in with terrorists and murderers. Given all of our recent advances in stomping out due process for "terror suspects", soon these folks will be getting assassinated or locked away without trials. That's how we fight the war on terror, by giving away all "politically correct" ideas about due process contained in the constitution.

They even slipped in that Police Chief's bit about stopping people from taking the 1st Amendment too far. And how he wants people who speak out to be brought up on charges. Oh and they demonized conspiracy theories in their little propaganda piece too.

 

[45calibre]

Anyone see tonight's story on 60 Minutes about Soverign Citizen and the inherent dangers? It was skewed to make the entire movement appear to be a bunch of Violent wackos, no surprise. I'd be interested in hearing from the forum.
If you didn't see, here's the link:
60 Minutes - Interviews, Profiles & Reports - CBS News

where can i watch the whole thing?

 

[rambone]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKFX5S4S-sE[/ame]

 

[Hammerhead]

The end of the piece there said to go to 60 Minutes' website to learn more about the sovereign citizen movement.

However, it added a "sponsored by" at the end. What it sounded to me that it said "to learn more about the sovereign citizen movement sponsored by viagra."

I didn't know boner pills sponsored the sovereign citizen movement.

 

[UncleMike]

The end of the piece there said to go to 60 Minutes' website to learn more about the sovereign citizen movement.

However, it added a "sponsored by" at the end. What it sounded to me that it said "to learn more about the sovereign citizen movement sponsored by viagra."

I didn't know boner pills sponsored the sovereign citizen movement.

Maybe all of the members have limp peckers.

 

[kickbacked]

i watched it, and then turned it off because it was so one sided.

 

[public servant]

Check out the 3 guys at 9:38...

 

[nawainwright]

wow.....just, wow.

you gotta love how everyone who might like these ideas is a terrorist...since veterans and anti-abortion people are on that list.....

Because, we need to stop those treasonous people...george washington, thomas jefferson, etc

 

[IndySSD]

wow.....just, wow.***

Because, we need to stop those treasonous people...george washington, thomas jefferson, etc

Actually, the scary thing is that your *sarcastic* remark at the end is exactly what FEMA anti terrorism training is teaching.

0:55

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oP1Ke70Mi8[/ame]

 

[Garb]

Actually, the scary thing is that your *sarcastic* remark at the end is exactly what FEMA anti terrorism training is teaching.

0:55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oP1Ke70Mi8

Words can not describe the anger I feel inside at this video.

 

[revsaxon]

That video was full of fail. I know they need to downplay the whole movement, but really? Did they have to pick every incompetent person on the planet to feature? What happened to the press' responsibility to provide fair and unbiased coverage?

 

[Garb]

That video was full of fail. I know they need to downplay the whole movement, but really? Did they have to pick every incompetent person on the planet to feature? What happened to the press' responsibility to provide fair and unbiased coverage?

The responsibility of the press has evolved into feeding the sheeple government approved material to keep them under their thumb. And yes, that includes Fox News.

 

[public servant]

Did they have to pick every incompetent person on the planet to feature?

You mean Moe, Larry and Curly?

Yeah...I would have picked others as representatives.

 

[badwolf.usmc]

@2:43, takes alot of balls to shoot a man in the back. Not sad at all that they died doing what they loved.

 

[Rayne]

Sovereign citizens are listed on the FBI's top terror threats. Did ya hear that? They even called them "paper terrorists" for filing lawsuits against the government. How hard would it be for any of us to get this label?

If you believe that you were born free and that you don't need to be numbered at birth, then you'll be grouped in with terrorists and murderers. Given all of our recent advances in stomping out due process for "terror suspects", soon these folks will be getting assassinated or locked away without trials. That's how we fight the war on terror, by giving away all "politically correct" ideas about due process contained in the constitution.

They even slipped in that Police Chief's bit about stopping people from taking the 1st Amendment too far. And how he wants people who speak out to be brought up on charges. Oh and they demonized conspiracy theories in their little propaganda piece too.

I want to address what I highlighted in red.

The Sovereign Citizens are not filing law suits against the government, they are filing liens of fake debts, against specific individuals to attack them personally for following their jobs as assigned by the government, ie government officials such as police officers and judges. There is a big difference here. They are making a personal attack on these officials and not on the government rules and regulations.

Second I believe in our Constitution including the 1st ammendment, with that being said the person excercising their 1st ammendment right has to be held responsible for what they are saying. Example. You can not yell "Fire" in a crowded theater when there is no fire, causing panic amongst the people.

My last comment not pertaining to the quote above, is that you are not required to have a drivers license. Driving is a privledge. If you want to drive a vehicle then you are required to know the rules, take a test to prove you know the rules and then show you can safely operate a vehicle. But you're not required to do any of this unless you want a divers license. To many people forget that driving is a privledge and not a right.

Just my on this subject.