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A little demo, why it is frowned upon to shoot over water.
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Kirk Freeman
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Ummm, you do realize that that bullet is hitting the water and the riccing off into who knows where?
Water does not generate some magic force field on a bullet.
Shooting over water has no impact on the bullet. It is when bullets impact the water that water has an effect.
8mmx57mm tracers will skip off water hit the bank go about a 100ft threw the dirty and get up and go who knows where!!!!....had a 3 acre pond.....we shot about 1k the same way w/o tracers......after firin' the tracers we stopped doin' that....sounds like in the vid the ol'boy firin' an AK....
Indy_Guy_77
Grandmaster
- Apr 30, 2008
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As Kirk pointed out, the video isn't about shooting over water it is about shooting into water. Two different things.
You ever skip rocks on a creek or pond? THEY skip...
Rocks aren't moving 3000fps though.
I don't see how it matters a whole lot. Even if the bullet comes apart and 20 grains go underwater and 20 grains go off into the woods, getting hit in the face with even 20 grains would be a problem.
You ever skip rocks on a creek or pond? THEY skip...
Yes, but have you ever tried to skip anything other than a large flat-bottomed rock?
Are you kidding? I'm thinking this is exactly what I need to do on my next "range report".
Indy_Guy_77
Grandmaster
- Apr 30, 2008
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I've skipped round rocks. Well, more oval-like.
And I could swear I've seen a show (discovery channel?) where they skipped a car.
Mythbusters did a sequence where they tried to re-create the Lamborghini (sp) skipping across a pond in the movie "Speedzone". I think they used a Fiero. Can't remember for sure, but I think they got it to skip
Fiero: Yes.
Skipped: Yes.
Pretty spectacular to watch actually.
For the skeptic, try this:
Find a pond or pool or really any amount of water with a couple inches depth (bathtub will do in a pinch). You need enough depth so that you don't immediately hit the bottom of the "container."
Make your hand flat (stretch your fingers straight out).
Lower it slowly into the water. Notice there is not much resistance.
Now SMACK the surface of the water. It will probably sting. Same rules apply to the bullet, the faster it goes, the more "resistance" the water will give, and with a shallow enough trajectory you can bet that the bullet will bounce right off and disappear into the unknown.
Heck, re-entering spaceships have to be careful about the angle they hit the atmosphere or risk bouncing off the AIR and back into space. (And that's air, not water!)
Buckshot and the other projectiles that we've tried over the years have all ricocheted in a straight line. We have skipped rounds off of concrete, police car trunks, and other smooth, flat surfaces. I've never seen or heard of rounds ricocheting at an angle like this. This is pretty cool.
That makes sense though, buckshot and other projectiles from a typical shotgun barrel have no spin. I would assume that smoothbore black powder weapons would behave the same way, and the spin from the rifling is what is kicking the round off in a particular direction.
