A rant on the "protest"

[maxwelhse]

Nah, less prisons and more firing squads. I'm fine with shooting traitors.

We've only shot, I think, 1 person ever for treason. Default sentence for most "treason" actitivty is 10 years from what I can tell.

Gonna be a hard press to get them to up the penalties on themselves to death from 10 years. But, I'll support it.

 

[NKBJ]

maxwelhse said:


I've been convinced for a long time now that they think that book is an instructional ma's a reason the public is shown what's going to be done.

I said: I'd long ago concluded that, oh, we'll just say for religious purposes, the public is shown what is to be done to them. Maybe 1984 is another case of that. Books like Brave New World for sure, as with lots of TV shows and movies. It's twisted.

maxwelhse,
Saw where you said you don't get what I wrote. I'm not sure how to respond because I don't get what you meant. So OK, I'll use a shotgun. If anyone hasn't studied on who the involved people have been and presently are (globalists, one worlders, whatever label one wishes to apply) and their motivations... in all seriousness I encourage you to do so and on the basis of their writings, their speeches, the organizations put together as tools to carry out their will, decide for yourself.
I became interested during the summer of 1976 as the result of a casual conversation with a business acquaintance who worked for a global engineering and construction company. What I've learned since about transnational non-governmental and often secretive networks and organizations has shown that it's inescapably about religious beliefs, all about bad versus good with bad arrogantly and incessantly claiming to be good. And, on the bad side, putting things in your face before it's done to you. That arrogance and mockery are part and parcel of the rebellious. Hence, my previous statement.

That's what politics really is; enacting the will of organized evil and on the other side trying to hold it back. It's my belief that studying the subject brings to a person what the sides are and provides a basis for choosing the single greatest choice that faces everyone is this physical life. Otherwise I suppose that I wouldn't even bring it up. OK, surrendering the soap box to wash up before the better 2/3's yells that breakfast is ready.

She just yelled! Bye!

 

[wtburnette]

Do the traitors go through the legal process first?

Absolutely. I'm not a Progressive who thinks accusations is all it takes for someone to be condemned. It should be easy with politicians as pretty much everything they do is on record.

We've only shot, I think, 1 person ever for treason. Default sentence for most "treason" actitivty is 10 years from what I can tell.

Gonna be a hard press to get them to up the penalties on themselves to death from 10 years. But, I'll support it.

Being lax on traitors is why we're in this mess. Politicians should follow the constitution and not their own socialist/communist agendas. If we start shooting those leading us down the road to socialism/communism, fewer of them will make the attempt.

 

[maxwelhse]

Being lax on traitors is why we're in this mess. Politicians should follow the constitution and not their own socialist/communist agendas. If we start shooting those leading us down the road to socialism/communism, fewer of them will make the attempt.

I'm all for it. Just gotta get congress to raise the bar of penalty on themselves to death and lower the bar of proof to "not as much". Without making it an actual law, what you're describing is exactly the fascism they kept claiming Trump represented for the last 4 years. We're not in Judge Dredd mode yet, although I do think we'll get there eventually.

I was mistaken btw... 3 people have been executed for treason, ever. 2/3 are approaching 250 years ago. It doesn't appear to be a thing we've ever done a lot of.

 

[wtburnette]

We define treason, we prosecute for treason, we punish for treason. Yeah, hard sell, but necessary if we ever want to fix the mess our country has become.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I don't have a convenient way to bypass the pay wall but Epoch Times posted this:

 

[Southbendfamily]

I know that it's not a popular opinion, but BLM has a vested interest just the same as the 45 supporters, in petitioning their government. They have the same grievances against our governments. I am not putting them in the same vein as ANTIFA, as they were infiltrated the same. But to push aside the entirety of BLM is disingenuous. No matter your "angle" we all have an interest in addressing our grievances against our government. Applaud this guy or chaste him, he and many others in the BLM movement are part of an U.S. American interest in protecting our individual freedoms.

 

[buckwacker]

I know that it's not a popular opinion, but BLM has a vested interest just the same as the 45 supporters, in petitioning their government. They have the same grievances against our governments. I am not putting them in the same vein as ANTIFA, as they were infiltrated the same. But to push aside the entirety of BLM is disingenuous. No matter your "angle" we all have an interest in addressing our grievances against our government. Applaud this guy or chaste him, he and many others in the BLM movement are part of an U.S. American interest in protecting our individual freedoms.

Communists say they fight for the little guy, with the results of their attaining power much different. All protests are not equal. Ideologies matter.

 

[JettaKnight]

You started off so good...

Communists say they fight for the little guy, with the results of their attaining power much different. All protests are not equal. Ideologies matter.

It could be argued that this wasn't a fight for the little guy, it was a fight to give one man power to ignore the will of the people and grow his own power.

 

[buckwacker]

You started off so good...

It could be argued that this wasn't a fight for the little guy, it was a fight to give one man power to ignore the will of the people and grow his own power.

The people at the Capitol were communists?

 

[NKBJ]

Communists say they fight for the little guy, with the results of their attaining power much different. All protests are not equal. Ideologies matter.

Beliefs about good and bad matter. Beliefs about right and wrong matter. Those are the basis of which ideology one supports and therefore ends up being defined by. What can we now say that the man Donald Trump subscribes to?
No one gets to the presidency without backing so who or what is the faction that brought citizen Donald Trump to the presidency, that he made agreement with in accepting the position? What are they?

 

[Kutnupe14]

History has shown, clearly, that McCarthy was on to something. The problem is that it's not illegal to be a straight up fully avowed communist. Nor would it be constitutional or just plan old American to outlaw a political ideology.

I don't think many people would argue against an obvious political machine all built out of pretty much the same color of bricks and all pretty much against the average American. 45 hit a wall, but 45 also helped build it just by being 45. I've said it before and I'll say it again, about 30% less bad rhetoric out of that guy and he'd probably have won the election.



I'm not following you.

No probably about it. Hence why I am glad Trump can't ever stop being Trump. He probably had the best chance since Washington to become "king" of the United States. He originally (pre-election) had a SOLID minority base, but he sold to divisiveness.

 

[JettaKnight]

The people at the Capitol were communists?

No, but communism isn't the only form of evil government.

 

[JettaKnight]

Beliefs about good and bad matter. Beliefs about right and wrong matter. Those are the basis of which ideology one supports and therefore ends up being defined by. What can we now say that the man Donald Trump subscribes to?
No one gets to the presidency without backing so who or what is the faction that brought citizen Donald Trump to the presidency, that he made agreement with in accepting the position? What are they?

I'm not so concerned about who controls DJT; I'm concerned about who's controlling that faction.

 

[maxwelhse]

No probably about it. Hence why I am glad Trump can't ever stop being Trump. He probably had the best chance since Washington to become "king" of the United States. He originally (pre-election) had a SOLID minority base, but he sold to divisiveness.

Seems like there was another guy in the middle there somewhere that tried that...

I don't believe Trump would have followed suit as Trump already had all of the power anyone could ever want before he came to DC. Despite this monumental disaster over the last 2 months, he's still going to wield more power than any other private citizen in the world... for better or worse.

 

[buckwacker]

No probably about it. Hence why I am glad Trump can't ever stop being Trump. He probably had the best chance since Washington to become "king" of the United States. He originally (pre-election) had a SOLID minority base, but he sold to divisiveness.

I don't see how the devotion of Obama supporters can be differentiated from that of Trump supporters, so if that's the standard you're using to make that assertion, you need to replace Washington with Obama to make it accurate.

 

[buckwacker]

No, but communism isn't the only form of evil government.

Ahhh...ok, fair enough. I think you were implying that the Trump folks might be lulled into authoritarianism as long as the authoritarian was their guy, because "it's our last chance". But I would argue the same was true in the late 1770s. There was no gaurantee then just as there is none now.

 

[AtTheMurph]

The people at the Capitol were communists?

Some of them most certainly. Communist want insurrection and rioting in the streets. They have always tried to use the power vacuum created in such situations to assume power.

Antifa/BLM want riots everywhere. They want the government and police to be overwhelmed. They have been planning for it and have structures in place to take advantage. And history proves they don't need to have anything close to majorities to use chaos to gain power.

It's a well worn script if you care to read it.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I don't see how the devotion of Obama supporters can be differentiated from that of Trump supporters, so if that's the standard you're using to make that assertion, you need to replace Washington with Obama to make it accurate.

There is CLEARLY a difference between Obama sycophants, and the Trump ones. I, personally, have not seen protests in the name of supporting Obama, where the criminal offenders literally wear his name on their sleeves (“sleeves” being an reference to general paraphernalia).

 

[Kutnupe14]

We've only shot, I think, 1 person ever for treason. Default sentence for most "treason" actitivty is 10 years from what I can tell.

Gonna be a hard press to get them to up the penalties on themselves to death from 10 years. But, I'll support it.

Do you mean “shot,” specifically, or is that a general reference to execution?