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  • Big John

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    New York Eagle Scout Suspended From School for 20 Days for Keeping Pocketknife in Car - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

    A 17-year-old Eagle Scout in upstate New York has been barred from stepping foot on school grounds for 20 days — for keeping a 2-inch pocketknife locked in a survival kit in his car.
    Matthew Whalen, a senior at Lansingburgh Senior High School, says he follows the Boy Scout motto and is always prepared, stocking his car with a sleeping bag, water, a ready-to-eat meal — and the knife, which was given to him by his grandfather, a police chief in a nearby town.
    But Lansingburgh High has a zero-tolerance policy , and when school officials discovered that Whalen kept his knife locked in his car, he says, they suspended him for five days — and then tacked on an additional 15 after a hearing.
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    The incident is similar to the case of Zachary Christie, a 6-year-old Cub Scout in Delaware who faces up to 45 days in his district’s reform school for bringing a scout utensil that can be used as a fork, spoon and knife to school. But for Whalen — who has received an award from the Boy Scouts of America for saving a life and completed 10 weeks of basic military training last summer — the stakes are much higher:

    He is concerned that the blot on his school record could kill his dream of attending West Point .
    In an interview with Foxnews.com , Whalen recalled the incident that led to his suspension.
    He said his school's assistant principal, Frank Macri, approached him on Sept. 21 and asked him if he was carrying a knife.
    "I was taken down to the office, and they told me that a student told them that I was carrying a knife," Whalen said.
    He said he told them "they could search me and everything, and they said, 'There's no need for that.'"
    Whalen said he doesn't know who might have said he was carrying a knife, but he was open with school officials.
    "And they said, 'Do you own a knife?' I said, 'Yes, I'm a soldier and an Eagle Scout — I own a knife.'
    "And they were like, 'Well, is it in your car or anything?' And I told them, 'Yeah, it's in my car right now.'
    "And they asked me to show it to them. I didn't realize it was going to be a problem. I knew it wasn't illegal — my police chief grandfather gave the knife to me."
    Whalen said he took school administrators to his car because he thought their fears would be allayed when they saw it was just a 2-inch knife.
    "They thought I had a dagger in my car or something like that, so I thought yeah, I'd show it to them," Whalen said.
    "I showed it to them, and they told me I had a knife on school property and had to be suspended."
    But things didn't end there, Whalen said.
    "They brought a cop in, who told them 'he's not breaking any laws, so I can't charge him with anything.'
    Whalen said he asked Macri why a 2-inch pocketknife would be considered more dangerous than other everyday items around the school.
    "I said to him, 'What about a person who has a bat, on a baseball team? That could be a weapon.' And he said, 'Well, it's not the same thing.'"
    The school district's policy lists "Possessing a weapon" under "examples of violent conduct," which "may be subject to disciplinary action, up to and including suspension from school."
    School district officials did not reply to requests for comment.
    Whalen says Macri gave him the longest suspension possible — five school days.
    "They gave me the five-day suspension, because that is all a principal can suspend a student for," he said. "And from there, they had a superintendent hearing to see if the superintendent wanted to suspend me for longer.
    "But the superintendent wasn't even at the hearing. It was the principal and the athletic director. The vice principal who originally suspended me wasn't even there, and neither was the superintendent. They basically asked me, 'Did you have the knife in your car?' And I said 'Yes, I did.' The meeting was recorded and they told me they were going to play the tape to the superintendent.
    "They asked me if I wanted to say anything, and I told them all my accomplishments and what I've done, and the principal even admitted that I had no intent to use the knife, that I had no accessibility to the knife."
    But school officials decided to suspend Whalen for an extra 15 days anyway, he said. And unless the decision is changed, he will not be allowed on school grounds until Oct. 21.
    Whalen said he does not know why the 15 days were added, but he said a school district employee told him it was because the school wanted to apply its policies consistently.
    "I've been told by someone who works for the district that they had to do it, because if someone else had a knife and they saw that I didn't get a suspension, that it would look bad for the school."
    School superintendent George Goodwin and Lansingburg Senior High School Principal Angelina Bergin did not return calls for comment Tuesday morning.
    Whalen said he has no record of disciplinary problems.
    "I think I have a detention from like 10th grade for being late or something like that," he said.
    He said the suspension has put his college dreams in jeopardy by keeping him out of class, while making him still responsible for assignments.
    Though he is provided with a tutor for 90 minutes a day, he said, "I've been suspended for something like a ninth of my school year, so I'm falling behind drastically in my classes."
    In addition to getting back to school as soon as possible, Whalen wants the school to drop the incident from his transcript.
    "My dream college would be West Point, and having a pock mark like this on my record could be detrimental. They're looking for the best of the best, and if someone didn't take the time to look through it and examine the case, they would just say, 'hey, this guy had a weapon on school property, and we don't want him at our college.'"
    Whalen said that he has received support from the community during the last few weeks.
    "I've received tremendous communal support. Almost everyone I've talked to has said they're behind me 100 percent, that it's ridiculous that [the school has] done this me."
    Whalen said he is not considering a lawsuit.
    "I don't know what I could do, because technically ... I did break the rules, and I'll accept that punishment," he said.
    "Perhaps I should have been more aware of the rules. However, I'm more upset about the additional 15 days.... That was entirely optional, and they decided to go through with that."
     

    jedi

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    :faint: He should have parked off school property. I do agree with you IndianaFinest. The more and more I read about this and other issues with our schools the more and more I think I just want to home school my little ones.
     

    Integraholic

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    This stuff pisses me off. Although I'm glad I didn't get caught. Every day after Columbine I carried a knife to school. I have no idea how I'm going to get my son educated. I don't want him surrounded by this crap.
     

    Frankingun

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    He needs to sue the school. And he and his family need to make political hay out of this and get the entire school board replaced.

    Suspeneded by the athletic director? Geez.
     

    Archaic_Entity

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    it wasnt even on his person. it was in his car. isnt that legally personal property

    Technically, yes. However, when you go to school, you waive all rights to personal property. If it is on school grounds, it is searchable, and you have no say whatsoever.

    Let me tell you a little story of mine:

    I was in the 9th grade, and definitely wasn't the best of students. It certainly has no bearing on my intelligence, more the fact that I was just typically rebellious and did not like being cooped up in a school all day long. But that's besides the point, or so I thought. Anyway, I'd say about two thirds of the way through my school year I was in lunch and I'd sat down only to find a 3-inch Swiss Army Knife come sliding out of my coat pocket. I didn't know it was there, and I wasn't even sure how it got there. However, I did know it was my knife, so I picked it up and put it in my pocket. A friend saw this happen, and reported me. So, in English the next period one of the vice principles and two officers show up and escort me out of the room. I go into his office where they proceed to ask me if I have anything contraband. I produce the knife dutifully, and they confiscate it permanently. They take pictures of it and warn me that if it had been a half inch longer it would have been a felony charge for carrying. They ask why I had it. Honestly being scared, and not thinking they would believe it was just there without my knowledge, I told them it was there for self-defense (stupid, I know). Well, they call my mom, tell me I'm probably going to see court, and suspend me for 5 days, with a hearing on the 5th day to determine their permanent recourse for my behavior.
    Home I go for five days, on the 5th I walked into a room with a bunch of people from the top of the school district, and they present their case, ask me to put mine on record, and so I did with a prepared statement explaining the truth of the matter:
    That my step-mom had put it in my pocket because it had fallen out in her car, and I didn't know she had. It had fallen out of my pocket, but I'd put it right back in. And that I don't know why I told them what I did, but this was the truth. Swore it on a Bible, even. A sworn testimony.
    Well, they confer for about 2 days, in which I'm in in-school suspension for the entire time. And decide to send me to a reform school for my actions to remain for the rest of the school year.

    It messed up my high school career severely, and I'm 23 years old and not in college because of how badly things got switched around. Partially based on other issues that were my fault, but a lot of it dealing with how my school system really messed up high school career.

    Zero Tolerance does not work, I hate the idea of it, and wish it would be changed.

    That's my two cents on this.
     

    Cain71

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    It is a vicious cycle that we now live in. The problem started with political correctness,you get repremand for telling the truth,if the person is an idiot and you can prove it he is an idiot, than he is an idiot,not a person with thinking difficulty. We the people let this happen and now you have a zero tolerance issue that requires us to think about what should happen and what we would like to have happen and what will happen as a result. BULL ****! we teach are children to be accountable,we teach them respect and some jacka** with written rules screws up his thought process. Instead of public schooling maybe we should have them watch a flock of sheep. That is what we are getting from our tax $. Sheep,let the herder make your decisions for you.
     
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