Apple Won't Create 'Backdoor' to Help FBI Access San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone

[mrjarrell]

Not to be outdone by the DoJ and a judge, the clowns in the house have requested Tim Cook and the FBI to come and tell them what's going on. No doubt it will spur them on to craft cutting edge legislation to help their law enforcement buddies at the expense of our privacy.

https://energycommerce.house.gov/ne...i-director-apple-ceo-testify-about-encryption

 

[ArcadiaGP]

 

[Denny347]

Here is a very good look inside the issue. You may be surprised on where many LE stands on this.

Rapid Response: Why Apple shouldn't give in to the FBI

 

[KDUBCR250]

Good on Apple for standing up to "The Man". They have unlocked phones in the past but this time it's different. The government doesn't need the key to just let apple do it. I hate apple but good on them !

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I think this means Apple is serious and will not quickly cave (as I expected). Apple brings in the big guns: http://www.therecorder.com/id=1202750228171?cmp=lawdotcomtwitter&slreturn=20160122102520

 

[Cameramonkey]

I think this means Apple is serious and will not quickly cave (as I expected). Apple brings in the big guns: http://www.therecorder.com/id=1202750228171?cmp=lawdotcomtwitter&slreturn=20160122102520

No bueno. Paywall.

 

[KittySlayer]

So is there no method for password recovery then? Like I said I've never messed with an iPhone, but having no way to recover a forgotten password seems pretty crappy to me. Secure, but crappy.

If you can't remember a four digit password perhaps you should not own an iPhone. I find it hard to believe you are able to earn enough to pay for it yourself. Heck, I even remember my childhood phone number, the first number I had to memorize.

Why didn't the FBI just whack off the terrorist thumb and gain access to the phone with the biometrics? A great question for all the anti's that want biometric safeties on handguns.

 

[Cameramonkey]

If you can't remember a four digit password perhaps you should not own an iPhone. I find it hard to believe you are able to earn enough to pay for it yourself. Heck, I even remember my childhood phone number, the first number I had to memorize.

Why didn't the FBI just whack off the terrorist thumb and gain access to the phone with the biometrics? A great question for all the anti's that want biometric safeties on handguns.

speaking of... As I recall there was a recent court case that established that biometric passwords are not protected. You can't be compelled to unlock a device with a passcode, but they CAN compel you to use your fingerprint to unlock it. Something to consider if you have enabled touch on your iDevice for convenience.

 

[bwframe]

This is an interesting quandary for the man/company that chose to inflict themselves into Indiana laws.

 

[BogWalker]

If you can't remember a four digit password perhaps you should not own an iPhone. I find it hard to believe you are able to earn enough to pay for it yourself. Heck, I even remember my childhood phone number, the first number I had to memorize.

Why didn't the FBI just whack off the terrorist thumb and gain access to the phone with the biometrics? A great question for all the anti's that want biometric safeties on handguns.

Let's just slow down a second here. Are you saying that you doubt I could earn enough to pay for one, or is that a rhetorical "you"?

 

[KittySlayer]

...or is that a rhetorical "you"?

The rhetorical "you"... the one's that need to use a Sharpie to put their password on the back of their phone so they don't forget. 1234

 

[BogWalker]

The rhetorical "you"... the one's that need to use a Sharpie to put their password on the back of their phone so they don't forget. 1234

Right on. My apologies for taking offense.

 

[jamil]

Why is this still an issue? I thought the local IT geek wiped the phone when he did a remote reset.

speaking of... As I recall there was a recent court case that established that biometric passwords are not protected. You can't be compelled to unlock a device with a passcode, but they CAN compel you to use your fingerprint to unlock it. Something to consider if you have enabled touch on your iDevice for convenience.

This just seems like further evidence that the courts make this **** up as they go on personal whims. So much for rule of law vs rule of men.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Microsoft founder Bill Gates is backing the FBI in its standoff with Apple

 

[jamil]

Microsoft founder Bill Gates is backing the FBI in its standoff with Apple

Of course he is.

 

[OakRiver]

uh.

San Bernardino Shooter's Apple ID Passcode Changed While in Government Possession, Apple Says - ABC News

Yup. More details here;
FBI confirms shooter's iCloud password reset - Business Insider

 

[jtdet01]

Apple VS. FBI - I am LOL! How many on this site are engineers of some type, software/hardware engineers, electrical engineers, or embedded systems engineers. I am laughing about this ridiculous debate going on in the news. Neither Apple nor the FBI are willing to say the truth and the American public is debating Security versus Privacy. It's ridiculous.

Engineers at Apple are undoubtedly amused and frightened as they are nervously deleting the source code for the testing automation tools that they created during the design, development and testing of these products.

The FBI wants the ability to hack anyone's phone. They directly requested the tools to to provide this capability. Some judge bought into it without understanding of the consequences. Stop it. The FBI does not need this capability.

I am disheartened by Apple's claims that they can not access the data from the San Bernardino Shooter's phone, a single phone. Apple engineers had to perform testing before that model of phone was released and manufactured, so they already have all the tools needed. At a minimum, they had to test the feature in question so they clearly already have means to turn on/off. Don't give it away to the FBI but don't claim it doesn't exist.

Apple does not want to admit that they can hack anyone's physical phone. Apple knows that all physical devices can be disassembled and have the data extracted. Apple knows this admission to the world would affect share price and overall company reputation.

During my career, I have seen hundreds of testing tools created to test products and individual components of products, as large as a truck and as individual as a single chip. Of course there are virtual development tools today that are used to design, develop and test before any chip ever touches a board.

Please FBI, provide the phone to Apple and put your hands in your pockets. You don't need any further tools.
Please Apple, just take the phone, work magic in the lab, and provide the data. (You know you have the ability.)
Come on, it's not that difficult to work together!

 

[UglyAmerican]

Wait, I thought this was just about one phone? I guess that's a lie also...

Justice Department Seeks to Force Apple to Extract Data From About 12 Other iPhones - WSJ

 

[JettaKnight]

Please FBI, provide the phone to Apple and put your hands in your pockets. You don't need any further tools.
Please Apple, just take the phone, work magic in the lab, and provide the data. (You know you have the ability.)
Come on, it's not that difficult to work together!

I think this is all a big guess on your part.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Microsoft founder Bill Gates is backing the FBI in its standoff with Apple

Or not.

Bill Gates says he was 'disappointed' by reports he backs FBI in Apple fight | The Verge